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#532 of 793 Re: 2006 Base Model Tire Replacement Needed [mama2ally]
Jan 31, 2010 (7:54 am)
I know how you feel. I find Michelin tires superior and long lasting. Toyota Canada does not want to admit that there is a problem with tire sizes for my Highlander 2008. Officially they say that the recommended tires shall be used and having a different size could/would void the warranty: only when damage to the car components can be traced back to the tires mind you but this is scary enough since transmission jobs could prove expensive.
Toyota Canada lives in a legal world but their repair shops have to deal with real problems. A service manager at Toyota told me he never heard about the issue but he would talk to some people and would get back to me. When he called he admitted that there is a problem and said my best bet was to get the recommended size tires and use them until Michelin or somebody else comes with a better product. This is a very sound advice and should be followed by everybody.
At another Toyota dealership I was told that as long as the tire is within 3% of the recommended size all is OK. Now, I live in Ontario and winters here are the real thing. Still I did not want to go for winter tires and my Toyo A20 lost the traction to such a degree that I was seriously worried about safety of my family. Without much exaggeration I can say that with even only a little snow on the road my Highlaner was behaving like a curling stone on ice.
Toyo Open Country HT are a better tire than A20 and I would have installed these if they were available but they were not. So, I bought Michelin Latitude Tour HP All Season 255/55R19 XL 111V tire. This tire is one size up and about 1.5% bigger than the original 245/55R19. Buying an oversized vs undersized tire seems safer since the tires will get slowly smaller in diameter due to wear and many people, including yours truly, often drive with not enough air pressure in tires anyways.
Toyota dealership ordered and installed the tires for me without slightest hesitation, which makes me feel so much better.
After a couple of weeks with the oversized Michelin tires on I can say that I am very pleased with the choice. The car has that silk-smooth ride to it now. It does not slide any which way and the yellow warning light does not come on the dash anymore. We did not have all that much snow in Ontario since I got the new tires, though, so it is hard for me to make any statements regarding real winter performance of this all season tire.
Just one more thing: when new tires were fitted the car vibrated a lot, which was especially noticeable at highway speeds. I went back to Toyota dealership and the tires were rebalanced. This did not help much. It turned out that one of the tires was way out of specs and caused the vibration. After the tire was replaced the problem is gone and the ride is superb.
BTW, at one point I called Michelin for advice and they did not recommend using any other size than specified by the manufacturer.
#533 of 793 Re: suitable non snow tires, any thoughts? [grahampeters]
Jan 31, 2010 (1:23 pm)
Cheers Graham, will wait till it arrives and see how it handles on the 17"
#534 of 793 Re: Toyota Service Bulletin - 18 Wheels [HoundDoggie]
Jan 31, 2010 (5:15 pm)
Thank you for this post. I need to replace the Toyo 19" pieces of crud that came on the 2008 Highlander Sport. I will look into this option. I got the Sport for better handling because the LTD was wishy washy. Now I may have to give up the 19" wheels and give back some performance. I am also looking at a slightly different size Continental tire that would fit the 19" rims. I agreed that we should all gang up on Toyota for their ineptitude.
#535 of 793 Re: suitable non snow tires, any thoughts? [stripeman]
Jan 31, 2010 (5:20 pm)
Do NOT go to the 19" size. You cannot get good tires for that size wheel. The only two choices are poor ones from Toyo and Bridgestone. My Toyos have 22K miles and are just about shot. Other people have posted worse results. Be warned!
#536 of 793 12+ inches of snow
Feb 01, 2010 (7:48 am)
My new 2010 Limited with the factory Bridgestones did very well after Saturday's snow. They don't plow residential streets around here on the first day and the Highlander did very well once I turned off the traction control. With TC on I couldn't move 2 inches because of the ice. Between the 3- or 4-inch base of ice, and the 3-foot high piles of snow, just getting away from the curb was bit of a challenge for everybody except for the few with trucks and me.
It's not the mountain goat my '86 Subaru GL wagon was, but it had factory steel skid plates, armored exhaust and dual-range part-time 4wd along with a 5-speed. I wore it out on the beaches at Hatteras, but it took 14 years before the rust got the subframe.
Feb 02, 2010 (12:21 pm)
Update on posts #136 and #142.
Managed to get only 16,000 miles out of the Hankook Optimo 235/55 19s on our 2008 Highlander Limited, after replacing the OEM Toyo Open Country's. Fortunately, the tire warranty from Hankook was pretty decent, and they allowed almost the entire amount I paid for premature wear. Went to Discount Tire, they replaced all 4 with another set of Hankook Ventus AS P255/55 R19XL. After it was all said and done, I effictively got 2 new tires for free and paid for the other 2 (around $375 total out the door including road hazard + free lifetime rotate and balance). The Ventus is a wider than the original Optimo (255 vs. 235), same aspect ratio, however the load rating is higher.
Ride on the wider Ventus tire is decent, and I am especially happy with the way Discount Tire handled the warranty with the old set of tires. The ride on the Optimo was better than the OEM Toyo Open Country's, but the wear rate was about the same as the OEM Toyo tire. I rotated the tires with an oil change at 5K, so I am at a loss as to why these 19" tires don't last very long.
#538 of 793 Re: 19" Tires [houston_man]
Feb 02, 2010 (3:19 pm)
I have 37000 miles on my factory supplied Bridgestones. They are pretty much done. I'm trying to get thru winter, but I don't think I'll make it.
When you put the 235/55's on, did you need a new rim? I really don't want to go with new rims and all.
#539 of 793 Re: 19" Tires [mama2ally]
Feb 02, 2010 (4:06 pm)
No, I used the factory rims that came with it. HM
#540 of 793 Re: 2008 Highlander Limited Toyo Tires [awl1]
Feb 02, 2010 (6:05 pm)
NOTE: This is a reply to a post in April 2009 - check the original post to see how this relates.
I think you have a problem with your specs. I have not found anyone with a 255/55R19 tire. There are several 255/50R19 tires, but not 55's. Without the 55 aspect ratio, the 50 ratio shrinks the tire about 0.4 inches in diameter and results in a 2% difference in real speed (slower) than indicated speed. There may also be issues related to ABS calibration. Firms with 255/50R19 include Michelin Latitudes, Continental Extreme Contact DWS, Continental ContiCrossContact UHP, and Hankook Ventus AS and possibly some Pirellis. You really must shop around the tire company sites to find the sizes since places like Tire Rack do not carry all brands and all sizes. Michelin offers no mileage warranty, whereas Continental and Hankook do. The replacement Toyo tire (if you want to continue the pain) is a Toyo Open Country H/T with a 60,000 mile warranty. Why is it the replacement tire gets 60K while the OEM is lucky to get 25K? I suggest everyone with problematic 19" tires (that includes the Bridgestone owners with similar complaints) write to Toyota and demand a refund for premature tire wear. The address is:
Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.
19001 South Western Ave.
Torrance, CA 90501
You should also go to the blog at Consumer Reports to read what they have to say about the tires in question.
I have always found their evaluations of tires to be right on target.
#541 of 793 Re: 2008 Highlander Limited Toyo Tires [topdawg]
Feb 02, 2010 (6:22 pm)
Bridgestone, Pirelli, Continental, Hankook and Michelin (to name a few, there may be more) all make a 255 / 55 R 19 tire, what are you talking about?