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Toyota Highlander, Tires, SUV
#350 of 793 Re: Decisions, decisions [400e]
Sep 27, 2009 (5:39 am)
Yes indeed - a voided warranty. You can see my many frustrating posts on this subject under Highlander 2008. Spoke with my dealership management as well as numerous other individuals whom I trust and all say the same thing. Granted, the chances of anything going wrong are slim. However, the dealership has told me the following:
A. Speedometer is calibrated to OEM size tires.
B. Transmission is same thing since it is computer controlled.
C. Suspension is tuned to OEM tires.
D. Other things.
Thus, you may get different feel, different ride with different tires and also will VOID the warranty and you will need to FIGHT tooth and nail with Toyota to get any warranty work reimbursed to you IF it ever occurs. Same thing was told to me from my local tire store in MI (Belle Tire). Thus, I have TOYO tires on order from their warehouse and plan to run those another 30K. Hopefully, by then.. a "decent" wearing tire will be available. I plan to call Michelin as previous poster above has suggested. Good idea. My advice is to stick with the TOYO tires and not Bridgestones. Start looking NOW before other Highlander owners see the same results and TOYO tires will become "hard" to find. My OEM -- Toyo tires have 31K and are "shot" as one would expect for "cheap" OEM tires. Rotated them very faithfully at every other oil change as well to no avail.
Michigan winter season is fast approaching and I'll have the new TOYO tires installed within next couple of weeks. Happy searching and I would seriously wait until Michelin or other companies come out with suitable 19 inch replacements.
#351 of 793 Re: TOYOTA - TOYO TIRES AND WARRANTY ISSUES [2010sel]
Sep 27, 2009 (5:47 am)
Not voiding the warranty on "Entire vehicle". . . Only those parts that need replacement due to incorrect tire size. Dealership told me it is the same as putting inferior oil in crankcase, or choosing NOT to perform routine maintenance on vehicle. Dealership in my area is very honest and has excellent reputation. This is why I bought a Toyota in first place. Another story for another day . . .
Thus, if you "Ever" had transmission problems or other "related" issues with vehicle and they can trace it back to "you" and incorrect tires, "you" will need to hire a "fleet" of lawyers and subject matter experts to "fight" with Toyota. Are you an attorney by chance looking for some work? I surely cannot afford the time and expense of big court fights just to get money reimbursed by Toyota. Look on door panel of vehicle and you will notice the tire size correctly stated on the door jamb of vehicle. It is also stated in owners manual. Thus, I decided to got with Toyo tires one more time until my warranty is "done". Then, I will go to better quality tires from Goodyear or Michelin and take my chances on my "trusty" Toyota with full understanding my my own liabilities for my choices.
#352 of 793 Re: Decisions, decisions [damifinomike]
Sep 27, 2009 (5:49 am)
Hope you had them order you the Toyo HT's as they are less and have a 65K warranty and are the same size as at A20's
#353 of 793 Re: Decisions, decisions [bob259]
Sep 27, 2009 (9:48 am)
I finally got my H/T ($700 delivered +$120 install) on the car. So far feels
pretty good. One thing I noticed right away is that thread is about 30% thicker than A20. I bought HL in Oct few years back. Did not pay attention to tires until first winter when I was sliding all over. I was somewhat shocked how thin were the 2-3 months old A20 at the time.
#354 of 793 Re: Decisions, decisions [doubles3]
Sep 27, 2009 (4:17 pm)
Sounds like a good price on the H/Ts -
Will be interesting to see if the H/Ts are better on snow than the A20s. Would almost have to be!
Thanks, all, for your experiences. Looks like ordering the H/Ts is what I'll do.
I too like the idea of letting Michelin know about our wish that they would make this size.
#355 of 793 Re: Toyo Open Country H/T tires [damifinomike]
Sep 28, 2009 (6:09 pm)
I got the response to my question from Toyota. The answer did not address the specifically my question about the differences between the H/T and the A20 tires. However, one can assume that the H/T tires are fine for the Highlander as their size is P245/55R19 103S.
The Toyota answer stated:
The recommended tire size for your 2008 Toyota Highlander Sport is P245/55R19 103S.
If the tires differ from the recommended size found on page 539 of your Owner's Manual, it will be a modification to your vehicle and could affect the vehicle’s performance, safety or durability, and may violate government regulations. In addition, damage or performance problems resulting from the modification will not be covered under warranty.
#356 of 793 Re: Decisions, decisions [400e]
Sep 29, 2009 (2:26 am)
If you go to this link and enlarge the picture you will see they are much better and should do well in snow for a M&S tire
(If you go here and plug in the vehicle you will get the size and offerings... Note the A20 is a 40K tire for $200 each and the HT is a 60K tire for $158 each)
If you look around you can get them for about $155.00 each + shipping.
For the winter I bought the Blizzak's in the correct size from the Tire Rack and a set of OEM 19's takeoffs on eBay to mount them on. Cost a little more but I've found in the winter nothing works better and gives you a better safety margin than Winter tires Vs M&S tires.
#357 of 793 New Tires
Sep 30, 2009 (4:31 am)
A co-worker had a flat tire on her 08' Highlander, took it to a 'national tire chain' and their recommendation is to replace all 4 tires. Has anyone heard of such a thing? The tires only have 18,000 miles.
#358 of 793 Re: New Tires [joe05]
Sep 30, 2009 (4:40 am)
Sounds like someone on commission to me, you have to be careful of these places. Makes no sense at all, unless the tires are all worn out.
#359 of 793 Re: New Tires [joe05]
Sep 30, 2009 (4:43 am)
My response would be "why" ? Do not mean to be sexist, but there are tire chain stores and other places that do "not" treat lady customers very well. I have experienced this issue while waiting in a waiting room and talking with other customers who happened to be female. Tires could be getting bad if they have not been maintained (air pressure + rotation, etc.) However, after only 18K, I would say they should have enough tread to last awhile. Have you completed the Lincoln penny test on them? Place penny head-side down on each tire tread and if you can see entire President head on the coin, tread is getting "pretty-low". You can find pictures of this test and how to peform it on Internet.
Next is finding replacement tires. As previous poster, take a read on the tire situation with this vehicle. Make sure you get exact tire size since this vehicle is still under warranty. Toyo and Bridgestone are only mfg. having correct size tires at this time. Mine were "shot" after 30K on vehicle and I do regular checks on pressure and rotations.
If you live in a snow area, you might want to perform the tire tread test and see how much tread is left on the tires and/or go to "reputable" tire store that knows how to treat a lady like respected and valued customer that will give her "straight" answers to her vehicle issues.
Sorry to say, but I have seen this first hand in last several weeks.