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Mazdaspeed6: Prices Paid & Buying Experience

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Re: Final Pay [abraindrainer] by aviboy97
Nov 27, 2006 (4:04 pm)
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Replying to: abraindrainer (Nov 27, 2006 2:37 pm)

Just to add a correction. I just stated that with the current incentives, the MS6 is a good alternative to the EVO/STi...never said it was faster. However, once again, I was shocked to see one could not pull away from me on the highway, probably because the EVO is not geared great for driving in top gear.
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Chat Night by pf_flyer HOST
Nov 28, 2006 (5:42 am)
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It's Tuesday so it's time for our weekly Mazda gathering! Avoid the holiday crush at the mall and have a relaxing chat!
 
The Mazda Club Chat is on tonight. The chat room opens at 8:45PM ET Hope to see YOU there! Check out the schedule
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Re: Final Pay [aviboy97] by abraindrainer
Nov 29, 2006 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 27, 2006 3:05 pm)

This is the wrong forum to discuss performance vs the STi/EVO
 
Funny comment considering YOU brought that point into the discussion. Personally, I think EVO will eat MS6 for lunch (at the track) because it is a better all around performer. Ability to stay on ones bumper on the freeway only proves that the disparity is NOT huge!
 
Furthermore, if I were to install an FMIC or another turbo would your dealership still touch my vehicle with respect to warranty issues? In either case, I also think that MS6 is a steal particularly at prices that are far below invoice and after incentives.
 
I am here selling them
 
That is part of the problem: you have a vested financial interest in anything you say here. What is my motivation?
 
I have looked far outside my area, have you? I have said it above and I will say it again: the prices vary greatly and the market does not seem very uniform. However, given upto $4k in price differences that your data also confirms (at least at one end), I would suggest that buyers from your area should start looking across the country because the cost of shipping is well under $1k...
 
You may not like that I say that but it seem like a plausible explanation or the truth, does it not?
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Re: Final Pay [abraindrainer] by aviboy97
Nov 29, 2006 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: abraindrainer (Nov 29, 2006 1:36 pm)

Funny comment considering YOU brought that point into the discussion.
 
No, my initial statement was "an alternative to the EVO/STi."...that's it! You went on to say how the MS6 does not compare, egging on my personal experience!! LOL. You are forgetting I never said it was a faster car on the track. I only used my experience on the highway, I made no other claim!! I know the STi/EVO will "eat the MS6 for lunch on the track". I also sell Subaru's out of the largest Subaru dealer in the nation, although that alone does not mean I am an expert, however, I am well aware of what the STi's are capable of, as well as the EVO's.
 
Furthermore, if I were to install an FMIC or another turbo would your dealership still touch my vehicle with respect to warranty issues?
 
It is not up to my dealership, it is up to Mazda North American Operations. I am not a tech, nor am I a service consultant. Legally, unless the manufacturer can prove that a modified part caused a failure, the warranty must be honored. Magnuson Moss Warranty Act US Code-Title15, Chapter50, Sections 2301-2315.
 
I have looked far outside my area, have you?
 
Of course I have! But, why would I tell any potential buyers to? That's just silly. I am well aware of what dealers across the nation are doing, however, it has no relevance to me. I was asked by YOU to give my input as to what I am selling them for!! I'm doing just that! LOL
 
You may not like that I say that but it seem like a plausible explanation or the truth, does it not?
 
Hey, I'm not going to sit here and disagree with you, for, if I were a consumer, I would do the same. However, I am not. I am on the other end of the spectrum, and it is the American way to do what I do, after all, this is a capitalist society, correct?
 
Anywho, my interest here is not financial, but rather because I am an enthusiast. I am here to learn as well as educate.
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Re: Final Pay [aviboy97] by abraindrainer
Nov 30, 2006 (5:24 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 29, 2006 2:27 pm)

Excellent, so we are basically in agreement! LOL too!
 
However, I am not sure that dealerships always follow the manufacturer or government "rules". I (and others) have been told numberous times that abuse (even when there was not any) has caused the problem and it would not be covered under warranty. Basically, the transactional effort of fighting for repairs is sometimes much greater than the cost of repairs and the firms know that and thus their practices reflect that bit of knowledge.
 
YES: MS6 has better HWY gearing and it also has a better power/torque curve. However, it is bigger/heavier which may hurt more on take-offs. I also think that MS6 is weaker on cornering (needs bigger feet) but it is almost there on the brakes.
 
I prefer MS6 because of the interior and lack or racer looks or sleeper appearance.
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MS6 lease prices/options by jdubs952
Nov 30, 2006 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Nov 28, 2006 5:42 am)

Hello all,
 
For those sales people in the NJ/NY/PA area, I was trying to figure out what the deal would be for a lease. I would be trading in my 2003 Taurus SE (realistically $4500-5000). Any thoughts on what a lease payment would be? I think the deals/incentives are pretty inticing and its between a used GTO purchase, Trailblazer SS lease, or a MS6 lease or purchase. Thanks and hopefully we can do business.
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Re: Final Pay [abraindrainer] by aviboy97
Nov 30, 2006 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: abraindrainer (Nov 30, 2006 5:24 am)

Yeah, most manufacturers do not like to pay out, and try to place blame on the owner. Thats just the way it is. A smart owner would then do as much research as he/she can, possibly hire a lawyer if they think they have a really strong case.
 
Could not agree with you more about your assessment of the MS6. I happen to prefer it over the rally rockets. More comfortable ride, plenty of power, and good handling, and sleeper look.
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Re: MS6 lease prices/options [jdubs952] by aviboy97
Nov 30, 2006 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: jdubs952 (Nov 30, 2006 9:08 am)

It is against Edmunds rules to engage in negotiations about a purchase with a dealer. However, you can receive advise.
 
Mazda will announce new programs tomorrow, the start of the new month. New lease programs, as well as interest rates, and possible change in rebates. I know that today, Nov 30th, is the last day for the Thanksgiving rebate of $500 on all 06 Mazdaspeed6's.
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Re: MS6 lease prices/options [aviboy97] by jdubs952
Nov 30, 2006 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 30, 2006 10:13 am)

Oh, sorry.
 
I just see such a wide variety and if they are seriously doing 8k off MSRP, which means I can get into a MS6 GT for around 22-23k, thats a steal. But a used 400hp GTO is about the same price..decisions, decisions!
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Re: MS6 lease prices/options [jdubs952] by aviboy97
Nov 30, 2006 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: jdubs952 (Nov 30, 2006 10:21 am)

The GTO does not have AWD, and really will just go fast in a straight line. The Mazdaspeed6 in a very well balanced vehicle with power, handling and fit and finish. Plus, a longer warranty, with Mazda having a better reputation for reliability.
 
It really depends what you are looking for.

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