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Subaru Forester, Steering, Suspension
#6 of 55 Re: '07 XT suspension issues [jimee]
Nov 30, 2006 (3:33 am)
Aha, I'm not the only one to notice. I traded in my 04 for an 07 and am suffering from the same concern. I liked my log wagon ride. When they changed the looks, they obviously changed the ride so they could get more soccer moms to buy.
I have researched it and found some of the reasons. They may have added .1 as in from 3.0 to 3.1 wheel turns from lock to lock...and then added boost to the power steering.
Here is an article that describes it exactly...
"This is where we don't necessarily like Forester's 2006 "improvements," even if it largely comes down to taste. The new suspension settings seem to have moved Forester a bit closer to the SUV side of the crossover equation and further from the car side. The steering feels a hint more numb than before, and the Forester more reluctant to turn, with more lean in the body through a fast curve. None of it seriously detracts from the Forester's handling edge compared to a truck-based SUV, and many drivers will never notice. But if you're inclined to attack a winding road, even in your little SUV-car, you probably will notice."
Some others have told me they could have used softer bushings etc. and that in conjunction with the raise in height would add the roll.
If you go to Scoobymods or the Subaru Forester Owners Forum there are people that can tell you how to "retune" your suspension. I am probably going to engage in some of the changes in the spring. Not sure which ones yet. I think I'm stuck with the steering difference.
#7 of 55 I didnt experience this yet...
Nov 30, 2006 (3:51 am)
"The biggest beef I have, however, is with the carrying capacity of the '07. This is a car for camp, and frequently I buy a big load of firewood and load up the back of the car. '04: no problem, barely a sag in the rear. '07: loss of at least 2 inches of ground/wheel clearance"
Oh no... I tow a 1900 pop up and didn't extrapolate yet to this. Like you the 200 lb tongue weight barely lowered my back end on my 04. I am really going to be upset when I hook up and have the back end go down. I have explored the addition of the load leveling just for the heck of it before this and it sounds like it is very very expensive. The struts themselves...if you can get them are around 200 apiece. Then you have to change your springs etc.
I believe the basic "metal" set up is the same as the 04 (which by the way was how the vehicle was originally engineered in a wholistic fashion)and it is just the big mushy bushings and things at the top of the struts between the frame etc that have done most of this.
OH and many of the Australians who get load leveling struts on over half their models have issues with the load leveling struts and are asking about switching them out for regular ones...LOL. They go out surprisingly regularly but then again, they use them. There's even a poll on this on one forum. Oh the Aussies get dual range manual transmissions. Subaru tries to tell U.S. they don't exist.
You can retro in STI suspension elements and really tighten up things I am told and with the bushing etc. changes it should be OK...but not cheap. Even if I or a friend does the labor.
#8 of 55 HD Springs
Nov 30, 2006 (4:08 pm)
Why not put in some HD rear springs?
#9 of 55 Re: HD Springs [paisan]
Dec 01, 2006 (4:50 pm)
#10 of 55 Re: HD Springs [kavoom]
Dec 01, 2006 (5:37 pm)
HD as in Heavy Duty
#11 of 55 power steering fluid
Jan 21, 2007 (12:58 pm)
I was checking the fluids in my wife's Forester today and noticed that the power steering fluid is right at the "cold min" mark (car hadn't been driven in a day). I thought I'd pick up some fluid and add a little just to have some margin so I checked the manual for the type and I noticed the book says to "never use different brands together." I've never seen this warning before (though I've never had to add power steering fluid to any of my cars before). Does this mean I can only have the dealer top it off? Or should I flush it and refill it so I know what's in there and can top off if needed? (I don't suspect a leak.) Am I risking serious damage if I top it off? Am I risking serious damage if I don't?
It's an 03 Forester XS, purchased in Sep 02. She doesn't put a lot of miles on (34k now) so we actually did the 3yr/36k service at 3 years in Oct 05.
Thanks for any info.
#12 of 55 Re: power steering fluid [cabriggs]
Jan 21, 2007 (6:19 pm)
It should take ATF IIRC. I wouldn't worry too much about it and just top it off.
#13 of 55 Re: power steering fluid [paisan]
Jan 21, 2007 (6:56 pm)
Right. It says "Dexron III" type automatic transmission fluid. I can find that easily enough, I just didn't know if the brand was a serious issue.
#14 of 55 Re: power steering fluid [cabriggs]
Jan 21, 2007 (7:21 pm)
I've never worried about it being the same brand on any of my subarus. The only one it mattered on was my XT6 which had electric PS pump and took special fluid.
#15 of 55 Subaru Forester 2000 Noise when turning wheel
Feb 12, 2007 (6:47 pm)
I keep hear a clunking or groaning noise when I turn 90 degrees and the car is still cold (mostly in the morning or when it has been parked all day)
I have mentioned this before when doing oil change at the subaru dealer and they don't seem to find anything.
Any hints and tips on how can I find out what is the problem?
Thanking you in advance, Elizabeth