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#15 of 202 Power window problems
Apr 15, 2007 (9:30 pm)
I have a 1999 Pontiac Montana mini-van with a burned out power window motor on the passenger side. I purchased a new window motor and tested it with a 12-volt power source before I installed it....it runs properly for both forward (up) and reverse (down) motions. The motor has two male prongs...the down-motion male prong goes into the brown wire side of the female plug connector, the up-motion male prong goes into the blue wire side of the female plug connector. The motor sits in a plastic plug that does not have a ground. We think that the brown and blue wires act as alternating power / ground, i.e, brown as power and blue as ground (to lower the window), then blue for power and brown as ground (to raise the window). I then plugged the motor into the female plug from the up/down window control switch. Using the window control switches, I tried to lower the window or raise the window....it does not work. Note that the drivers side window switch for the drivers side window works fine, so I doubt that it's a fuse or circuit breaker problem. We ran some more tests; ....down motion via jumpering the brown male motor prong to the brown wire on the female plug, and a ground wire on the blue male motor prong, and depressed the window switch down.....it worked properly. Doing the same test on the up switch with the blue wire did not work. So the switch's down motion works, but the switch's up motion does not work. Through several tests we found that the brown female wire was providing power, but the blue wire is not providing power and is not a good ground.
Here are some possibilities: when the original motor burned out, the window switch circuit board up-function might have fried. I'll check the circuit board for any visual signs damage. Another possibility is the blue wire is broken....which is going to be tough to find.
I'm trying to find a wiring diagram, but no luck so far.
Has anyone had similar problems with this vehicle (or Olds Sillouette or Chevy Lumina APV)?
#16 of 202 Re: Power window problems [jhirneisen]
Apr 19, 2007 (8:33 pm)
I think I found the problem.....when the right front power window motor shorted out, it fried the right window up/down switch. I finally found the problem with help of a wiring diagram...obtained by my friend from AllDataPro.com (a pay for use site) and I ran about 25 different tests.
Jack in Colorado
#17 of 202 Re: Power window problems [jhirneisen]
Apr 19, 2007 (9:43 pm)
If you want to view a summary of the Recalls and Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) for your vehicle, go to: http://www.alldatadiy.com/
Then on the right margin it will ask; "Choose Car Year". Enter the year, i.e. 1999.
It will then come back asking for model, etc.
I entered mine; a 1999 Pontiac Montana 3.4 Litre V-6.
I got 3 Recalls and 148 TSBs. Click on: http://www.alldatadiy.com/TSB/49/994902gn.html
to see my results. That's about all you get for free. You will need to subscribe to their service for more detailed info, or find a friend that subscribes.
Jack in Colorado
#18 of 202 rear door and gas gauge
Apr 28, 2007 (7:47 pm)
Hello, I just bought a 99 Pontiac transport Montana that has most of the bells and whistles.It has 241,000kms on it.
3 problems. 1. when I first bought it the gas gauge would go to full and as i drove it a few blocks it would fall to empty. At Cdn Tire they told me to put an additive (Valvoline) in the gas tank, now the gauge went to full and stayed there, no more movement. the vehicle had been sitting idle since last fall.
2. the rear door refuses to open with either the flicker or the hard key, it clicks but won't open.
3. Also the clock doesn't lit up and the volume control doesn't operate as it should.
#19 of 202 Re: rear door and gas gauge [montana99]
Apr 28, 2007 (9:18 pm)
For the gas gauge.....might be a bad gas gauge sending unit which is in the gas tank. GM had lots of problems with this part which was supplied by an outside vender. They issued a TSB on it, but you probably have too many miles on your vehicle to qualify for a free replacement.
Jack in Colorado
#20 of 202 Re: rear door and gas gauge [jhirneisen]
Apr 30, 2007 (3:32 pm)
Thanks for the response. Briefly, yesterday the led lit up on my radio, after I switched off the ignition and restarted, it wouldn't lit up again. As far as the rear latch and the gas gauge are concerned, when we buy vehicles in Ontario, they have to be safetied and these two items are part of the package so I'll go back to the dealer I bought it from for correction. I was hoping to find someone who had first hand knowledge of these two problems to save time, hope the mechanic knows.
#21 of 202 Door problems
May 02, 2007 (9:27 pm)
Having problems with the passenger automatic sliding door on my 2000.
Gets stuck often to the point that we don't use that side anymore.
#22 of 202 Re: Fuel Gauge Issues [svtmustang]
May 02, 2007 (9:29 pm)
Having the same problem here.
Have you heard anything back?
#23 of 202 Re: Door problems [mlkutter]
May 02, 2007 (9:53 pm)
My 1999 Montana was recalled 3 times for "failure to sense an obstruction in the path of the door while closing". And it still refuses to close now and then. What does the dealer say?
Jack in Colorado
#24 of 202 Re: Fuel Gauge Issues [mlkutter]
May 02, 2007 (10:29 pm)
On further investigation, when the ignition is turn on just prior to start and I wait say--- 5 seconds--- the gauge will then give me a true reading which leads one mechanic to think it's a faulty ground. The rear latch door issue , the same mechanic thinks is a faulty solenoid. Any other opinions???