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Re: 2009-20111 Impala [nosirrahg] by gb540
Jul 21, 2007 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: nosirrahg (Jul 20, 2007 1:17 pm)

GM is making a BIG mistake if they go RWD only. Either have an affordable AWD option, or surrender your family-sedan market share to the imports.
 
Why? I'm in the Rust Belt. RWD stinks in snow and ice! No fancy talk about differential locks, weighting down the trunk, and "snow tires" will redeem it. Besides who wants to do such baby sitting? It's not 1947 anymore.
 
People bitch that you need RWD for performance. On a FAMILY SEDAN?? Whatever. If you wanna burn your tires on a Saturday night get a sports car.
 
GM should be going all-out on getting the Chevy Volt to market instead.
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Re: 2009-20111 Impala [bobber1] by ryster
Jul 22, 2007 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: bobber1 (Jul 20, 2007 7:00 am)

The 2008 Impala is already posted on Chevy's website and it is the same as the 06-07 except for some changes to the trimlines and options and prices. I can't imagine Chevy would do a 2008 run and then make changes within 6 months. It can take longer than that to retool the plant for such changes, and the current Impala is selling very well for Chevy.
 
I recall reading at another site somewhere that the New Impala will be released in calendar year 2010 as a 2011 Model Year vehicle. That means 3 more years with the current style. Not sure if what I read is actally true, however.
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Re: 2009-20111 Impala [gb540] by qbrozen
Jul 23, 2007 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: gb540 (Jul 21, 2007 1:40 pm)

I have a feeling you won't be back to reply ... but here goes anyway.
 
We don't yet know if AWD won't be available. I would think it is a strong possibility. BUT, let's say its not. Chevy has plenty of FWD cars in the stable to choose from. They NEED a RWD sedan! They are losing in the family sedan wars BECAUSE they are always trying to beat Honda/Toyota at their game. You need to offer something they don't. That's RWD. The Chrylser 300 has been successful beyond anyone's dreams. Chevy's only problem with offering a large RWD sedan is that they waited so damned long!
 
By the way, you aren't alone up here in the snow belt, and I have NO worries about driving a car like this in the snow. There is no doubt my FWD cars have been great in the snow, but I also spent the first several years of my driving life with nothing but RWD trucks. Care needs to be taken in foul weather no matter what you are driving. People always manage to wreck in bad weather, and I've noticed that these people have ALL TYPES of drivetrains. AWD, RWD, FWD doesn't matter if you are a careless driver.
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Re: 2009-20111 Impala [qbrozen] by ryster
Jul 23, 2007 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 23, 2007 5:30 am)

I am not the person you responded to, but just wanted to add some comments.
 
I agree with you that RWD can work just as well in the snow as FWD. I drove my '99 Camaro in some pretty heavy unplowed snow and had no issues. It is all about HOW you drive, not necessarily what you are driving. RWD with good all-season or winter tires and driven sensibly will be just as good as FWD or AWD with good all-season or winter tires.
 
When I was shopping for my new car last year, it came down to the '06 Impala, the '06 Dodge Charger SE V6, or a '06 Chrysler 300 Base 2.7L V6. I went with the Impala, as it had a more comfortable interior, better fuel economy, and a slightly better quality reputation.
 
If Chevy goes RWD on the next Impala, I hope they offer the new direct injection V6 that Cadillac is using in 2008. It has V8 power, with slightly better than V8 fuel economy. Initial reviews are very positive.
 
I would also like to see Chevy upgrade their interiors with better materials and tighter tolerances. If Hyundai can offer interiors like they do in the Sonata and Azera for mid-$20K's there is NO REASON that Chevy can't do the same.
 
So, offer me a $25K RWD Impala with the 300+ horsepower direct injection V6, a well put together interior with CLOTH bucket seats, OnStar, ABS/Trac, 6 airbags, power everything, 17" alloys (NO Goodyear tires, please!), and dual exhaust...I will buy! I could probably live without the direct injection V6, but the V6 they use should have at least 265hp. If the V6 model is not available for $25K or less, then I WILL go elsewhere (unless the new Malibu is really as good as they say it will be).
 
Pontiac will be selling a V6 version of the upcoming RWD G8. That is another possible alternative, although probably not as roomy as the Impala will be.
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Re: 2009-20111 Impala [ryster] by qbrozen
Jul 23, 2007 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: ryster (Jul 23, 2007 9:38 am)

The only part of your post I have to disagree with is the price.
 
The 3.5L 300 starts at just over $29k. So I don't see Chevy offering up a car that competes directly with that for $4k less.
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Re: 2009-20111 Impala [qbrozen] by quietpro
Jul 25, 2007 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 23, 2007 10:31 am)

I think the price is a bit optimistic as well and maybe the Malibu is more your speed. But, everything else I agree with. RWD is no problem in the snow. Modern tires erase the problems of old and FWD doesn't always equate to a better handling vehicle. I have driven terrible FWD vehicles in the snow...due to terrible tires...and once the front wheels let go...you have NO control AT ALL. At least with RWD, you can still STEER.
I'll be test driving the G8 when it gets here in anticipation of the new Impala and just in case the new RWD Impala doesn't make it. Either way, I'm really anxious to see both.
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Re: 2009-20111 Impala [qbrozen] by ryster
Jul 26, 2007 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 23, 2007 10:31 am)

The '08 Impala 2LT now comes with the 3.9L, 233hp V6, and starts at $25,225. Discounts and incentives will get you below $25K. It has everything I would be looking for in a RWD Impala as standard (ABS/Trac, stability control, power options, etc.) If they can build it now for $25K, they should be able to do it with the RWD, as rear wheel drive vehicles tend to cost a little less to manufacture (the RWD drivetrains are less complicated).
 
Granted car prices creep up every year, but a Chevrolet Impala will never have the same cachet as a Chrysler 300. The fleet/rental stigma will be too hard to erase out of people's minds. If they try to sell even a mid-level V6 RWD Impala at a starting price of $29K they deserve to have a tough time. Especially when I could go down the street and get a Dodge Charger SXT, with the 3.5L V6 and the side airbag option, for $25K (provided Chrysler is still around in 3 years).
 
The new Hyundai RWD sedan will also be one to watch when it shows up in a year or so. Although it is being pegged as a luxury model, it would not surprise me to see Hyundai throw a more modest V6 version into the mix to try and increase potential buyers.
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Re: 2009-20111 Impala [ryster] by qbrozen
Jul 26, 2007 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: ryster (Jul 26, 2007 9:18 am)

as rear wheel drive vehicles tend to cost a little less to manufacture
 
Not true. Look up the history of FWD. The entire reason for its existence is lower cost.
 
Especially when I could go down the street and get a Dodge Charger SXT, with the 3.5L V6 and the side airbag option, for $25K (provided Chrysler is still around in 3 years).
 
Ok. No problem. We can compare to a Charger. But an SXT is $26,360. With side airbags, its $26,950.
 
Street prices are a completely different ballgame and not what we are talking about here. I have NO idea (and neither do you) what a RWD Impala would sell for after negotiating.
 
By the way, I'm anticipating the base Impala will have the high-feature 3.6, so it should outpower Chrysler's 3.5.
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Re: 2009-20111 Impala [qbrozen] by 08malibumann
Jul 26, 2007 (10:35 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 26, 2007 9:56 am)

Ok, if you go on the Chevy website and read on the 2008 Malibu... Side Curtain Airbags are STANDARD so when the Impala is released Chevy is putting Side Curtain Airbags in that standard also; which neither the Dodge nor Ford corporations offer. GM will be the first American auto company to offer Side Curtain Airbags standard on all vehicles by 2010... cool huh
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Re: 2009-20111 Impala [gb540] by 08malibumann
Jul 26, 2007 (11:02 pm)
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Replying to: gb540 (Jul 21, 2007 1:40 pm)

you're full of it.... One of the reasons Chevy will be turning out a RWD Impala is remember the 92-95 Caprice that car was the # 1 selling car for 2 years, thanks to Taxi companies and The Highway Patrol... Also Ford lost their contract with the Highway Patrol when they stopped making Crown Vic's. Which now Dodge has picked up the contract for the nex 3 years with the RWD Charger... Chevy lost that contract when they made a FWD Impala... Ford wont get that contract back cause their RWD 08 Taurus is only offered as a V-6... Think about the sales Chevy can make with the RWD Impala esp. since its got a better rap then Dodge remember all the transmission troubles of Dodges that has never changed... I agree with the other RWD fans its all about the tires and the person behind the wheel... If the RWD Impala isnt for you try the 08 FWD V-6 Malibu

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