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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo

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Re: Should I get a Rondo? [coolmazda5] by vicenac
Sep 25, 2009 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Sep 25, 2009 12:55 pm)

I "live" in the Mazda 5 forums. This thread apears there, too.
Outback and pretty much all the Subaru cars get a thumb down from me. There are many many reasons why I like Subaru's, but their 4 gear transmissions kills it for me.
I went to a dealer (rude) and I sat in an Outback. The driver's seat and space, controls etc. seamed designed especially for me. I was amazed how well I felt in there.
But then the price and low tech....
I would get a Rondo. It seems to have less technical problems then the MZ 5, but then, like I said, where is Waldo?
I called Galpin Mazda (huge dealer) and they say MZ5 will come mid October or the latest close to the end of October. I can streach it that far, so I'm back to Mazda 5.
Why a Mazda 5? We simply love the way it looks! And it is also a minimalistic aproach to our needs, which are 3 raws of seats. for mom, dad, kid 1 (car seat), kid 2 (car seat/carier), grand ma'.
I am fully prepared to put a cargo box on top, a trailer hich for bikes on the back and to get out and push it uphil
Thanks for all the help, guys and girls!
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Re: Should I get a Rondo? [ofionnachta] by dona83
Oct 07, 2009 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: ofionnachta (Sep 23, 2009 11:17 am)

The 2nd and 3rd row of a Mazda 5 do fold down flat. With the 2nd row you have to fold the seat cushion forward first then fold the seat back down. With the 3rd row, you just have to push it flat in. In both rows the headrest has to be all the way down. I love my 5.
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Should I buy a Rondo... by torontodad
Oct 08, 2009 (9:35 am)
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Apart from being biased, as I just bought one.. I say yes.
reasons are simple, in the context of it's only contender, the Mazda5:
Space to Gas to Ride Quality to Utility to Features ratios...:
SPACE, marginally more than the 5, but more configurable.
Gas: less fuel efficient with the canadian 177hp 4cyl., but added power means better highway performance, plus the Theta II engine is a well proven engine across multiple manufacturers (read cheaper parts)
Quality: same as 5, some components are better put together, though not as snazzy looking as 5.
Utility: ok.. so look at space above..
Features: Far exceed the 5 at same trim levels
Top this off with dealer incentives to get rid of 2009 models, I got mine at 23K Cdn EX Premium with 2 years of service free. Java Brown (dunno if I will regret that but hey)..
Currently drive a ford escape 2009, company car, which is being taken away from us, as well as salary reductions... All roads pointed to KIA for me.. and I am thus far pleased... though I have yet to drive it!
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Re: Should I buy a Rondo... [torontodad] by 9394
Oct 08, 2009 (9:28 pm)
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Replying to: torontodad (Oct 08, 2009 9:35 am)

wow, 23K?
 
is that including PDI, documentation, levy, finance fee...etc (except sales taxes) ?
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2010 US Mazda5 Specifications, now with TCS and DSC by coolmazda5
Oct 09, 2009 (7:10 pm)
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Problem is to find them in inventory, but they keep on adding value to the car, that is always good. TCS and DSC are now standard to avoid complaints
 
AVAILABILITY FUNCTIONAL CHANGES
- Add Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) as standard (All)
- Add Traction Control System (TCS) as standard (All)
 
EXTERIOR/INTERIOR CHANGES
- Delete body-color side moldings (All)
- Sand interior (CC4) not available with Brilliant Black (A3F)
- Delete side turn signal repeater lights (All)
- Delete glove box illumination (All)
- Delete black headlight bezels (Touring/GT)
 
Exterior Colors Added:
- Liquid Silver (38P)
 
Exterior Colors Deleted:
- Sunlight Silver (22V)
 
Source:
http://www.mazdausamedia.com/content/2010-mazda5
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Canadian Mazda 5 by conwelpic
Oct 10, 2009 (5:40 am)
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2010 Mazda 5 info and details not yet released in Canada. (Rondo 2010 is now available)
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Re: Should I get a Rondo? [dona83] by ofionnachta
Oct 10, 2009 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: dona83 (Oct 07, 2009 12:23 pm)

Dona83, You know why I did not think the Mazda 5 seats folded flat? The kid who showed it to us on the lot did not know they could! He dropped them down as far as they went without folding the cushion forward as you describe, then said, "Gee, I guess they don't go down any further!"
 
This ignorance was not his fault. It is his management's. I am astounded that at a lot of places, apparently whenever a new model comes in, they do not run the entire staff through a session instructing them in all of the various attributes of the vehicle. How on earth are they supposed to sell them to the public?
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Re: Should I get a Rondo? [ofionnachta] by coolmazda5
Oct 10, 2009 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: ofionnachta (Oct 10, 2009 7:09 am)

How on earth are they supposed to sell them to the public?
 
Savvy people do good research on the cars they want to buy before they show up at the dealer , especially with the information available everywhere nowadays (i.e. this same forum).
 
But you may be right, the concept of sales consultants has become worse and worse, apart from few good ones, the rotation (one day Nissan, the other day Honda) is too high and their knowledge has gone down...
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Re: Canadian Mazda 5 [conwelpic] by coolmazda5
Oct 10, 2009 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Oct 10, 2009 5:40 am)

What are the 2010 Rondo specs? Some new goodies?
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Re: Canadian Mazda 5 [coolmazda5] by conwelpic
Oct 10, 2009 (5:13 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Oct 10, 2009 9:36 am)

there is a separate thread for the 2010 Rondo info. The only thing I can see in the spec info that is different is Eco-Minder indicator and there is also an in-dash navigation sytem on the top model. I haven't seen a 2010 model yet (my local dealer didn't have any when a checked a couple of days ago).

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