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#733 of 859 Re: July 2009 Sales (US) [tourist1292]
Aug 05, 2009 (11:21 am)
I just tried a couple of Autotrader new car searches in 2 random US locations (opposite coasts):
Location 1 (50mile radius):
2009 Mazda5s available: 11
2009 Rondos available: 22
Location 2 (50mile radius):
2009 Mazda5s available: 8
2009 Rondos available: 12
I do believe it is not a low supply, but maybe the new KIA line-up attracting some of the Rondo's target market buyers: the Soul and the Forte (especially the Soul as a 5-seater "wagon"). KIA as a brand is doing well, just some of its models didn't
#734 of 859 Re: July 2009 Sales (US) [coolmazda5]
Aug 05, 2009 (11:49 am)
I think the CFC has helped the 5 more then the Rondo. The 5 is considered a cat1 truck and qualifies for $4500, the Rondo is a passenger car and in most cases only gets $3500. Got my 5 two weeks ago and love it so far. First full tank 26 MPG in mixed driving.
Plus the 5 is better looking.
#735 of 859 Re: July 2009 Sales (US) [ldisler]
Aug 05, 2009 (12:15 pm)
Good point, I believe CFC is mentioned in the Mazda press release link posted earlier. cat1 truck, huh? that makes sense
#736 of 859 Re: July 2009 Sales (US) [coolmazda5]
by vg33e power
Aug 05, 2009 (12:59 pm)
So what do you think? Our Mazda5's are not cars but are not really mini-vans. They are not SUV's because they do not classify as that type of vehicle so therefore they do not come standard with privacy glass. Most people call them wagons but they raise contraversy because it has slider doors like a mini-van...which is not, and now the government for the sake of CFC categorizes it a cat1 truck...WTF!
So our Mazda5's can be a car, a mini-van, an SUV, a wagon, and now a truck...lovely!!
Man, talk about Mazda making a ripple on a calm pond....and I love it!
#737 of 859 Re: July 2009 Sales (US) [coolmazda5]
Aug 05, 2009 (7:44 pm)
The problem is that most, if not all, the available Rondo are LX and not the more desired EX trim. 10 out of 11 Rondos at my dealer right now are LX that has no 3rd row seat and moon roof option. In other words, most of the Rondo left are 5 seaters that are not competitive model for Mazda5. Dealers have been receiving mostly Soul and Forte in the last few shipments. On the other hand, the current inventory reflects the outcome of cash for clunkers. Rondo has both 4-cylinder and V6 models, but only the I-4 is eligible due to the 1mpg difference. Whereas Mazda5 only has 4 cylinder models and they are all eligible for the cash voucher.
#738 of 859 Re: July 2009 Sales (US) [tourist1292]
Aug 06, 2009 (7:22 am)
So it seems that in this case KIA is being bitten back by offering way too many options for a single model nowadays. That was its strength in past months however.
Oh well, I hope the Rondo and the Mazda5 stay in the KIA and Mazda line-ups in the US for the next generation, competition is always healthy (those KIA numbers don't help today though, the Rondo is just ahead of the Borrego and the Amanti in numbers for July 09)
#739 of 859 Re: July 2009 Sales (US) [coolmazda5]
Aug 08, 2009 (2:40 pm)
Sure it is good to have more optional line-ups within the same model if they can deliver the them too. I guess Kia's manufacturing capacity is really limited that they have to cut down the production of Rondo to make the new Soul and Forte. Anyway, let's hope that there will be more competitive models by other manufacturers in this niche.
#740 of 859 Re: July 2009 Sales Canada
Aug 21, 2009 (6:39 am)
been away for over six weeks, thanks coolmazda5 for the US figures. These are the Canadian market:
Rondo: 979 ('08 - 1,066) YTD: 5,848 ('08 - 6,236)
Mazda 5: 1,017 ('08 - 1,162) YTD: 5,709 ('08 - 9,010)
I guess it won't be too long before we start finding out about the 2010 models, usually in Canada its late August or early September.
#741 of 859 August sales for Canada and US
Sep 15, 2009 (12:04 pm)
Rondo - 967 (1,087 in '08); YTD - 6,815 (7,323 in '08)
Mazda 5 - 972 (747 in '08); YTD - 6,681 (9,757 in '08)
Rondo - 1,259 (3,508 in '08) YTD - 11,078 (22,038 in '08)
Mazda 5 - 1,919 (1,324 in '08); YTD - 14,266 (14,637 in '08)
#742 of 859 Should I get a Rondo?
Sep 23, 2009 (11:15 am)
Hi! I am a boomer Mom ready to unload the 7 seat minivan. We just don't need it anymore. But I want decent cargo space as we do haul stuff. And I want a fairly comfortable driver seat, don't like my teeth rattling as they do in my husband's Civic.
I wish more mfrs made wagons---I don't want to spend a fortune on a Volvo, youngest goes to college soon.
Does anyone here have experience/opinions on whether we should look to Rondo, used 2009 Subaru Outback, Hyundai Elantra Touring? I don't want a 2010 OB, they are too much like SUVs. I do want reliability as we keep our cars until they die.