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#714 of 806
The new family wagons provide generous space and flexibility. by coolmazda5
Jun 17, 2009 (5:58 am)
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One of those few Mazda5 and Rondo analysis in one single article:
 
http://www.canada.com/family+wagons+provide+generous+space+flexibility/1703018/s- tory.html
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Parents Magazine and Edmunds.com Announce The 15 Best Family Cars Of 2009 by coolmazda5
Jun 17, 2009 (7:21 pm)
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The Mazda5 made the list
 
Parents magazine and Edmunds.com revealed their annual list of Best Family Cars. Having tested essentially every vehicle in the marketplace, the experts selected 15 top models — three each in the budget, crossover, minivan, sedan and SUV categories. Each car was judged on safety, performance, interior, exterior and family friendly features.
 
In addition to analyzing, test-driving, and comparing specs, Parents/Edmunds.com took into account feedback from parents who own and drive these vehicles every day. All of the cars on the list are budget friendly — five start at under $20,000 and one checks in at under $15,000. The Best Family Cars of 2009 will appear in the June 2009 issue of Parents magazine on newsstands nationwide today.
 
According to the Parents/Edmunds.com survey, the 15 Best Family Cars are:
 
BUDGET
Honda Fit
Mazda5
Volkswagen Rabbit
 
CROSSOVER
Honda CR-V
Toyota RAV 4
Subaru Forester
 
MINIVAN
Toyota Sienna
Honda Odyssey
Hyundai Entourage
 
SEDAN
Honda Accord
Chevrolet Malibu
Mazda6
 
SUV
Ford Flex
Mazda CX-9
Chevrolet Traverse
 
When it comes to combining family friendliness with value and performance, Honda was the leader: the Fit, Accord, CR-V, and Odyssey all made the Parents/Edmunds.com list. Reviewers raved about these models' spaciousness and thoughtful features such as convenient cup holders and steering-wheel mounted audio controls.
 
Mazda followed with three models, the Mazda5, 6 and CX-9 making the list, while Toyota and Chevrolet each had two models on the list. Nine of the 15 models are newcomers to the annually updated list.
 
"With the 2009 list, Parents and Edmunds.com made an extra effort to highlight the smartest, safest and most budget conscious cars," said Dana Points, editor-in-chief of Parents. "If your family is in the market for a new car, now is actually a good time because steep dealer discounts make this a buyer's market. This list plus our money saving car shopping tips will empower you with all the information you'll need."
 
According to the Parents/Edmunds.com Best Family Cars research, superior handling, efficient gas mileage and easy car seat installation are all "must haves" for parent drivers. The extras that won rave reviews from parents were storage related features, including bins under seats, easy to reach compartments in the dash and cup holders in the back seats. Remote start capability and multiple electronic plugs for portable electronics also impressed the reviewers and owners of the models on the Best Family Cars list.
 
"There are 340 new car models on sale this year, and busy families could undoubtedly use some help sorting through the choices to decide what is right for them," stated Edmunds.com editor-in-chief Karl Brauer. "As a parent myself, I feel sure that just about any family can find a car on this list that will serve their purposes well."
 
Source:
http://www.edmunds.com/help/about/press/148466/article.html
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Everyone has different perspective by larrytbm
Jun 21, 2009 (2:44 pm)
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"According to the Parents/Edmunds.com survey, the 15 Best Family Cars are:
  
BUDGET
Honda Fit
Mazda5
Volkswagen Rabbit
  
CROSSOVER
Honda CR-V
Toyota RAV 4
Subaru Forester "
 
I looked at 5 of them and choose the Rondo instead because my views are different. As a satisfied owner of an '03 CRV, the new one was the standard to beat. But it was a little dissapointing, it lost some of the nice touches, a little noisey and unattractive interior (huge Titanium colored door handles don't fit the beige interior and too many different colors/textures). The Fit is even noiser with very cheap looking fabrics, especially for a Honda. The RAV4 was OK, nothing significantly good or bad, not the best interior design or engine/trans choices. The Forester was really noisey and rough riding with a very bland interior. The M5 didn't meet our specific cargo needs and the second row buckets just can't handle a 55 lb dog. Someone elses inputs are useful but never the final answer.
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2009 Consumer Reports Test Scores. Rondo and Mazda5 by coolmazda5
Jul 03, 2009 (9:51 am)
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2009 Kia Rondo LX V6. Overall Test Score: 76
Highs: Ride, quietness, powertrain, access, versatility, controls, available third-row seat.
Lows: Unsupportive seat, no telescoping steering wheel, suspension noise.
 
2009 Mazda5 Touring 4-cyl. Overall Test Score: 86
Highs: Agility, ride, access, visibility, seats six, controls, value.
Lows: Reserve power, road noise, no ESC.
 
Wagons and hatchbacks, highest test score: 86
Wagons and hatchbacks, lowest test score: 49
 
Sources:
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/ConsumerReportsSnapshot.aspx?year=2009&make=Ki- a&model=Rondo
 
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/ConsumerReportsSnapshot.aspx?year=2009&make=Ma- zda&model=Mazda5
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by leckig
Jul 06, 2009 (7:11 am)
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i read both reviews on consumer reports - I dont quite understand the way these cars are rated. If you read these reviews it seems like Rondo would actually get higher score.
 
I wish an explanation was given why 76vs86.
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Consumer Reports ratings by igozoomzoom
Jul 06, 2009 (12:29 pm)
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i read both reviews on consumer reports - I dont quite understand the way these cars are rated. If you read these reviews it seems like Rondo would actually get higher score.
  
I wish an explanation was given why 76vs86.

 
I've always used Consumer Reports along with other guides (mainly Edmunds) when car shopping. But it is irritating that they don't detail how they arrive at the overall score for a particular vehicle. All you see are those dumb little circles that are partially or completely filled in red or black....but no number values for comparison.
 
In the case of the Mazda5 (with a score of 86) and Kia Rondo (score of 76)-
 
Predicted Reliability- Kia (Very Good) is better than the Mazda (Good)
Emergency Handling & Braking- Mazda (Very Good) is better than the Kia (Good)
Acceleration- the V6 is slightly faster than the 4-cylinder Mazda, but the Mazda gets slightly better fuel economy.
 
I'm a Mazda fan (love my '06 Mazda3), but I don't see how those differences result in the Mazda5 ranking 10 points higher than the Kia Rondo?
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being influenced by commercials by leckig
Jul 09, 2009 (4:09 am)
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neither of these is a sport car boys... I am amazed how some of you are being influenced by a marketing slogan - quite pathetic, really.
 
Personally, I like the Rondo better even though Mazda is more attractive from the outside in my opinion. Inside, Mazda looses - it just looks poorly made compared to Rondo and only two seats in the second row??? - this is just weird.
 
Well, good luck on your 1/4 mile track... in a station wagon, or a minivan, whichever way you want to call it.
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Re: being influenced by commercials [leckig] by coolmazda5
Jul 09, 2009 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: leckig (Jul 09, 2009 4:09 am)

You are right, these are no sports cars, but if you like driving and car dynamics then the Mazda5 supports its marketing slogan extremely well for the type of car it is.
  
Now, if you just need a people hauler to move you from A to B, then no argument on your rationale I guess.
  
I enjoy driving, like car dynamics and have driven both cars, so I can tell there is no Mazda marketing ploy, there is a world of difference between both. The way I see it is: with the Mazda5 is not how fast you get from A to B, it is how much more fun you had when getting there
  
As per the Rondo being more attractive from the outside than the Mazda5, you are right, it is your opinion, I won't argue that
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Re: being influenced by commercials [coolmazda5] by vg33e power
Jul 09, 2009 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 09, 2009 12:30 pm)

Looks are subjective.
 
....for me the Mazda5 takes it all the way, and I have to side with coolmazda5...its not how fast you get there but how fun it is to get there..another one for the Mazda5.

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