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Re: I've Owned Both [haviland] by nissmazlover
May 05, 2009 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: haviland (May 01, 2009 8:57 am)

I gotta agree with all the replies to your post. Sorry, but your assertion that no one buys the Mazda 5 for "zoom zoom" is totally off the mark.
 
I would have never considered the 5 if it weren't for its good and sporty looks, sporty intentions and driving demeaner and youthfulness, in addition to its practicality. I feel my 5's steering feel is perfect. It handles like a dream - a sporty one at that - AND it fits my family's needs perfectly (married father with two 9 year old boys). We all couldn't be happier with our car and it's sportiness and looks. So, yes, it's "zoom zoom" was/is a DEFINITE factor (my wife hates minivans, but she loves the 5, and very much disliked the Rondo because of its "uncool minivan-ness").
 
I'm really glad you're happy with your choice to drive the Rondo. More power to you! But, honestly, all this talk about the Rondo's "comfortable ride" has perplexed me. I, extensivlely, drove a 2007 Rondo for over a week and didn't find the ride to be superior to the 5's in the least. No offense, as we all are able to express our opinions in this forum, but I found the Rondo's ride to be very cheap feeling and misleading. At first, the ride seemed to be comfortable until you come in contact with bumps, potholes, speed bumps or dips in the road. Then, all that supposed "comfort" went flying out the window as the suspension felt harsh and cheap, and let all the unfiltered vibrations into the cabin - especially with a full load of passengers who all complained that their butts, literally, hurt after a long trip because of the harsh ride (characteristics my 5 does not exhibit at all). Mazda 5's ride may seem firmer at first, but you soon find it's, in actuality, more cosetting than the Rondo's - PLUS, it delivers better handling. Side note - I also noticed a slight but noticeable difference in ride quality between my 2006 5 and my 2008 - 08 rides better and feels more refined.
 
Another side note: To the person who alluded to the fact that a 60 year old should drive/consider a Rondo. No fair! Let's not generalize with the mature folks that way. My mom's 60 years old and still very much enjoys driving and appreciates my 5's "zoom zoom".
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Go Kia - six cylinder has guts! by davidfehr
May 05, 2009 (9:20 pm)
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When I first owned my Mazda 5 I was given the opportunity to test drive a Rondo for a number of months - free. Not the greatest styling but a much more robust and drivable vehicle than the Mazda.
 
My family hated the Mazda. When it wen,t I got a Kia. I am much happier than I was with the 5. Mine was definitely a lemon. I would never indulge myself with a Mazda again. Sorry the Mazda 5 just has no guts and it is not utilitarian enough to be really used as a van.
 
It has not found a niche yet and before it does I imagine it will go out of production. You can read about mine and my experience with Mazda Credit Corporation, http://vaselinerequired.blogspot.com/
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Re: I've Owned Both [nissmazlover] by kivo
May 06, 2009 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: nissmazlover (May 05, 2009 12:24 pm)

I'm 63 years old and bought a 2008 Mazda5 about 1 year ago. Although the miles I put on it is very low, I also feel the car handles very well and the steering is perfect. I think the suspension does an acceptable job handling the bumps, and it has plenty of power (of course, there is never more than 2 in the car at one time) but I do have a scooter lift and an electric scooter in the back at all times. So far, a great car!
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Re: Go Kia - six cylinder has guts! [davidfehr] by nissmazlover
May 06, 2009 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: davidfehr (May 05, 2009 9:20 pm)

Wow, sorry that you had a lemon and such a bad experience with your 5! A lemon, keep in mind, can come out of any manufacturer - included the vaunted ones, Honda and Toyota.
 
As for me, I have had two 5's, and with the exception of the suspension crunching I experienced in sub-freezing weather in my first 5, they have both been blissfully trouble-free and reliable.
 
As for not being able to use the M5 as a van, um...it's kinda not designed to be used as an outright van. If someone does want van utility they'd be much better served with a regular-sized minivan such as a Caravan, Quest or Odyssey, not the 5 or a Rondo. However, as far as carrying the ocassional large loads, I have yet to encounter a problem with my 5. It can handle all four of us, plus A LOT of stuff - a lot more than any conventional family sedan could - with the utmost ease. And I think that is the point of the 5 - more utility than a regular family sedan, but less so than a huge "mini" van. My family and friends have all been amazed at the capacity the 5 has and we often find ourselves saying: "Never underestimate Max!" (That's the pet-name my kids gave our 5 since we all love it and it's ironic how such a small mini-minivan can do so much!)
 
Hope your Rondo brings you years of enjoyment!
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Re: I've Owned Both [haviland] by nissmazlover
May 06, 2009 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: haviland (May 01, 2009 8:57 am)

It really is amazing to me how different human beings can be from one another. And I mean that in a good way! This is a perfect example.
 
Whereas you found the Kia's seats to be more comfortable, I find it to be the exact opposite for me. The Rondo's seats made my sciatica ridden back hurt after long trips. At first, they seemed cushy, but boy did that change after a little while! In the 5, though, I can sit happily all day in all four captain chairs, not just the front seats!
 
As far as the stereo system goes, I actually thought the Rondo did deliver great sound, too - on par with my 5 since I think it has a great sounding system, too. Difference being that when I rented the Rondo, it didn't have an aux port, wheres my 5 did/does. (Don't know if Rondos come with AUX ports now, though.)
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Seats by dona83
May 06, 2009 (1:14 pm)
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I feel exactly the same about the seats in the 5, I can sit in them for hours. My 2008 Corolla had nice seats too as long as I didn't sit in them for over an hour, otherwise my legs and lower back would start acting up. The 5's seats feel a bit flimsy and it's not the most cushioned but boy do they do the job!
 
Sorry about the 60 year old comment, I just threw an arbitrary number out there! I just can't fathom the day where I would no longer enjoy driving in Zoom-Zoom fashion.
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Canadian Sales for April '09 by conwelpic
May 07, 2009 (5:20 am)
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Rondo - 1,024 (1039 for '08)
Mazda 5 - 959 (1735 for '08)
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Re: Go Kia - six cylinder has guts! [davidfehr] by coolmazda5
May 07, 2009 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: davidfehr (May 05, 2009 9:20 pm)

To be honest with the name of that site you have posted here Mazda may not want you to buy or lease a car back from them either (BTW, the link seems blocked)
 
Best of luck, we hope you get a better deal (car/money) in the future
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Re: Go Kia - six cylinder has guts! [coolmazda5] by gearhead1977
May 12, 2009 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (May 07, 2009 10:18 am)

Just picked up a new 08 GT Mazda 5. The driving dynamics of the Mazda are far superior to the Rondo. The sliding doors work better in our narrow garage and the Mazda interior is nicer IMHO, although the Kia isn't bad really. The Mazda is OK on power, but I do wish it had more. The engine revs smoothly and quickly, so it doesn't feel slow, except above 75 mph or climbing a steep hill. But since it corners so well, I don't have to slow down much and can keep the momentum up through the corners. The V6 in the Kia was a bit coarse sounding too.
 
The 50 series tires on 17 inch wheels will be painful to replace cost wise. But the "Zoom-zoom" factor makes it worth it.
 
Never had a Mazda either, so I wanted to try out the brand. As soon as I drove the 5, that was it for the Kia. I had an 01 Hyundai Elantra before, it was fine, but it was a driving appliance, not a drivers car. It was so boring to drive, I traded for a an 01Ford Focus ZX3 and never looked back.
 
For us, the Mazda was the best overall combination of fun,function and value.
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Re: I've Owned Both [haviland] by go59
May 12, 2009 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: haviland (May 01, 2009 8:57 am)

Off subject, but exactly how do you remove those rubber strips? They appear to be fastened at the front. Cut them?
 
Thanks,
 
Greg
 

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