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Replying to: vg33e power (Mar 12, 2009 7:28 am) My mother-in-law bought one of those Excels when they first came out, what a load of crap, but then again Toyota and Honda went through the same thing before. KIA has only been in Canada 10 years and in the US since 1994. |
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Replying to: conwelpic (Mar 14, 2009 2:23 pm) From Consumer Reports I see Mazda in 4th place, behind Honda, Subaru and Toyota  With an overall score of 78 out of 100 points, Honda was followed closely by Subaru (75), and Toyota (74) in the overall score. Subaru is also the only automaker with 100% of its tested vehicles Recommended, although it has a relatively small model lineup. Mazda (73), came in 4th, followed by Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Volkswagen, and BMW, all tied at 72. Of the Asian automakers, Subaru, Nissan, Mazda, and Hyundai improved their overall scores. Nissan and Hyundai also improved their reliability rating. Of the four, Hyundai showed the most improvement, increasing its overall score from 66 to 70. The Hyundai Genesis also topped Consumer Reports’ upscale-sedan ratings, contributing to the automakers continued progress. Source Consumer Reports: Release Date: Feb 26, 2009 Consumer Reports’ Automaker Report Cards: Honda Leads Again, Mercedes-Benz Improves, Chrysler Lags http://pressroom.consumerreports.org/pressroom/2009/02/consumer-reports-automake- - r-report-cards-honda-leads-again-mercedes-benz-improves-chrysler-lags.html
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Mar 14, 2009 5:10 pm) You are correct too, as there is two different reports, the one you refer to is on page 15 and the one I'm referring to is on page 17. Hyundai and KIA are grouped as one on your list. The list I'm referring to takes the reliability section of your list and breaks that down - "Reliability by brand".
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Replying to: conwelpic (Mar 15, 2009 2:48 pm) The only other thing I said was that Kia, like Toyota cars are rather bland, boring, or simply ugly in their design, unfortunately Honda is following too with their rather ugly new Accord. My Mazda5 still wins in looks and spotiness against the above mentioned, and it is in par with reliabilty with the likes of the fav 3 import brands (Toyota, Honda, Nissan). |
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Rondo - 533 (767 in '08) Mazda 5 - 384 (1,028 in '08) |
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Replying to: conwelpic (Mar 15, 2009 2:48 pm) . Those magazines, telling ya 
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Think Rondo is no longer the stylish name it was? Does Magentis remind you of those magnetised bedsheets your granny always raves about? Apparently Kia shares your concerns, and is investigating how best to revamp its model naming system to appeal to a wider (ie: under 40 year-old) audience. The new Soul and Forte (aka Cerato) are rumoured to be safe, as both nameplates are fresh enough and hip enough to strike a chord with younger car buyers. However, the rest of the range will likely see a good number of badges being thrown into the bin. “We want to leave the old baggage behind,” Kia’s Michael Sprague said in an interview with Automotive News. “A lot of people don’t know who we are anyway. So why not come out with new and more attractive names like Forte and Soul?” An alpha-numeric naming convention isn’t expected to be on the cards, but we do expect to see some funkier names popping up in Kia’s stable in the near future. All we ask is that they make more sense than Ssangyong’s. Source: http://www.themotorreport.com.au/24602/kia-to-re-jig-model-nomenclature/ |
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Mazda5 2,642. Diff from March last year: -4.2% Rondo 2,307. Diff from March last year: -18% Sources: http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/- 04-01-2009/0004999197&EDATE= http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/kia-motors-america-announces-march/story.a- spx?guid={9C174832-675D-4954-837D-4BBEAF8124FB}&dist=msr_4 |
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The Mazda5 and Rondo were the two vehicles we tested the most before deciding on the Rondo. The best feature about the M5 is the sliding doors. I'm not into zoom-zoom or impressing others, just functionality and value (not cheap). The car we test drove just 30 min. before our first drive in the Rondo was a $40k Audi A4 Avant and I fully expected that to totally kill our interest in the Rondo, but it didn't. Back to the M5 and Rondo, for us the decision is how the vehicle is primarily used. The M5 is a nice package and works well as a people mover that sometimes may have to carry cargo. But we mostly carry pets and/or cargo and the Rondo absolutely works better. For large pets, the 2nd row buckets on the M5 don't work and we carry items on the floor that wouldn't fit in the M5. Finally, the Rondo is quiet, rides well and good placement of all controls. The Rondo is bland looking, but I'm not paying to improve the scenery for other drivers.
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Replying to: larrytbm (Apr 06, 2009 8:47 am) You are making a good point, I agree with that, but at the same time to me driving a car is like using a suit, I want it to be comfortable but also to look good when I wear it What happened to the Audi A4 Avant? Why the test drive if you don't like impressing others? I would have chosen that hands down over a Mazda5 or a Rondo  , but I prefer to have 2 Mazda5s for the price of one Audi though  Allright, allright, enough of questionnaires, enjoy your new car, that is what matters most!!
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