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Mazda MAZDA5, Kia Rondo, Car Comparisons, Car Buying, Wagon
#638 of 859 Are there any vehicles similar to the Mazda5?
Feb 19, 2009 (8:15 pm)
The 2009 Mazda5 is similar in size and function to the 2009 Kia Rondo. They also match up in price with Mazda trims ranging from $17,995 to $22,675 and Kiaís from $17,495 to $22,295.
Both are small minivan-like vehicles. The Mazda comes standard with room for six while the Rondo has a maximum seating capacity of seven with the optional third row. The third row costs $650 and is available on the LX and EX trim levels.
The Mazda is the only vehicle its size to use sliding doors like a traditional minivan, distinguishing it from the hatchback crowd. The Rondoís doors are hinged like other sedans or small SUVs. Sliding doors offer easier access to the third row and are convenient for getting in and out of the vehicle in tight places; plus, you donít have to worry about wind blowing the door out of a childís hands.
Other small three-row vehicles include SUVs like the Dodge Journey, Toyota RAV4 and Mitsubishi Outlander.
Feb 27, 2009 (12:44 pm)
I'm in the process of buying a Mazda5 right now, after shopping it and the Kia Rondo (among others). I liked the Kia also, but the manual transmission in the 5 sold me. Also it seemed like the third row in the Kia would be almost inaccessible with car seats in the second row, and having a usable third row was a major selling point.
#640 of 859 Re: Any 2009 Rondo Owners to fill out Edmunds consumer reviews? [coolmazda5]
Mar 02, 2009 (6:54 pm)
One review, cool!
#642 of 859 Rondo Mazda5
Mar 11, 2009 (5:08 am)
I presently have a Mazda3 on a 4 years lease and the return is schedule for this coming august. I looked at the different Mazda models and was disappointed that the brand new Mazda 3 models are almost the same as my four year old. I looked at the Mazda 5 and reading comments on the web I came across a road test mentioning the Kia Rondo.
I went for a road test and was really impressed. One thing that I wanted to change was a more softer ride. The Mazda3 is an incredible car for its sporty suspension and it clings to the road, even more so at an higher speed. Its counterparts is the bumpy ride and the hardness...feels like driving a truck!
Well maybe it's my age!
I went for a test drive on the Mazda 5 and I felt I was still in my Mazda3. The drive isn't comfortable like the Rondo. And if you compare the prices (Canada/Quebec) then Mazda5 isn't even near the Rondo.
Although I'm only 5'10", I wasn't confortable in the Mazda. I couldn't get the seat to an agreable position for me. I am used to have the seat way back when driving. The comfort on the seats in the Rondo is much better, not to mention the heated seats.
So I am hooked on the Rondo. Presently it's the 2009 model and I wonder if the 2010 will be available in July. Or get the 2009.
I would appreciate your opinions and suggestions on the Rondo. I read about the fogy windows problem here. Is it on the 2009 models?
Things I should ask about before buying, equipements, any specific problems etc...
Thanks for your input.
#643 of 859 Re: Rondo Mazda5 [ged3]
Mar 11, 2009 (7:52 am)
I own a 2008 Rondo EX, 5-seater Canadian model with the 2.4L engine. If you double click on my name you can go back and find out all my comments on this forum, I'm also on a couple others too.
I currently have nearly 26,000km on it and have owned it for just over 16 months. The only warranty claims I've had are 1. one of the heated rear window strands was not working (fixed) and 2. inside stress crack on the windshield (replaced). I've had no mechanical problems so far and the vehicle is solid and totally squeak and rattle free. My mileage has ranged from a low of 26mpg to a high of 39mpg (Imperial gallons). Can't fault the fit and finish. I get my service done at my local dealer and so far no problems, they have treated me well so far and as long as they do I will support them.
If you pick up the April issue of Consumer Reports which is the annual auto issue it does state that they do recommend the Rondo and I believe Consumers Guide does as well.
Based on the past the 2010 model will not be available in Canada to late August. One of the main pluses for me (didn't realize it till the first winter) was what you mentioned - the heated seats - fantastic (and you don't have to get leather to get it, like in many vehicles) and also the heated side mirrors and windshield wiper de-icer. I'm very impressed with the 2.4L engine and it has more than enough power for me (out performs the 2.8L V6 that I had in my previous vehicle).
Based on what I've read on the 2009 models, I would certainly not get the LX model as it appears to be even less of a bargain than in '08. Due to the current economic conditions you can get some good deals, much better than when I bought mine and at the time I thought that was a fair price too.
When I purchased mine, I got the rear bumper cover, window visors and hood deflector installed. If you get them at the time of purchase you triple your warranty coverage on them. You can also download the warranty and owners manual from the Canadian website if you haven't already done so.
I've had no problems with fogging windows, but if there is anything you want to know specifically just ask and will try to answer you to the best of my knowledge. So far, I have no regrets purchasing this vehicle.
#644 of 859 Re: Rondo Mazda5 [conwelpic]
by vg33e power
Mar 11, 2009 (9:23 am)
All that sounds nice and all. I also give Kudos to Kia for stepping up their fit and finish, quality, and creature features as a standard equipment as well as their awesome warranty but..... IMHO, their design is plain bland and/or ugly. Kia should fire their design department and improve of their frog looking cars and maybe more people would consider them.
As for me, I will gladly keep my much nicer and sportier looking Mazda5. Sorry, but Rondos are just plain ugly and odd looking. Just my opinion!
#645 of 859 Re: Rondo Mazda5 [vg33e power]
Mar 11, 2009 (12:53 pm)
Hmmmm, I passed over a Mazda 5 since, among other reasons, I did not care for it's looks - the white taillights were too kitschy/too faddish, the greenhouse was too busy, esp the rear door windows/rear side glass area (no line goes farther than a few inches!) and the car is not proportioned well - it is 3 or 4 inches too short and looks stubby as a result.
The Rondo, however, has a much cleaner, more unified look, with less of that Pontiac-style busy-ness and hang-ons that the M5 has.
It's Mazda who should get rid of their M5 design dept (the Mazda6, on the other hand, looks fantastic) - the M5 is a little too, shall we say, full of time worn design cliches.
As for people considering Kias, good Lord man, have you looked around lately? It seems like every 10th car is a Kia, and that goes for other places in Canada that I have visited. Lots of them are Rondos.
Just my opinion!
#646 of 859 Re: Rondo Mazda5 [bgw]
by vg33e power
Mar 11, 2009 (1:15 pm)
Rondos don't come "standard" with third row seating, it is an option, no sliders either, plus they offer an "anemic" V6 engine as an upgrade that hardly makes it worthwhile compared to their four cylinder standard engine, and as opposed to just firing the Mazda5 design team (because the new Mazda6 looks fantastic according to you) Kia needs to fire their entire line-up design team because all Kias look like frogs from the front end.
Just my opinion!
#647 of 859 Re: Rondo Mazda5 [vg33e power]
Mar 11, 2009 (3:06 pm)
vg33e, you missed my humour altogether. While I do prefer the Rondo over the M5 for a variety of reasons, you'll see by my past posts that I like the M5 quite a bit. But you were so strong in your Kia bashing that I had to have some fun with you.
And you bit. Hard.