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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo

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Reports are that 2009 Rondo... by garnermike
Jul 31, 2008 (9:50 am)
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....will get the same Theta I-4 engine as the '09 Optima, which is rated at 175 hp and achieves better mpg (32 mpg hwy). That's a 13hp increase over '07 and '08 Rondo.
No news on the V-6 yet engine yet, but if it follows Optima form, the hp will go to 190, an 8 hp increase.
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Re: Reports are that 2009 Rondo... [garnermike] by coolmazda5
Jul 31, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: garnermike (Jul 31, 2008 9:50 am)

Is there a manual transmission on that thing finally? With that HP and MT it could definitely attract a different buyer audience
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Re: Reports are that 2009 Rondo... [coolmazda5] by bgw
Jul 31, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 31, 2008 11:26 am)

As much as I love my 07 EX V6 Luxury, I sure wish it had a manual trans. Maybe a 6 speed?
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Re: Reports are that 2009 Rondo... [bgw] by conwelpic
Aug 01, 2008 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: bgw (Jul 31, 2008 12:02 pm)

I doubt they would put one in, the percentage of the market that buys manual transmission is extremely small, thats why for example when Honda redesigned the CR-V they dropped it as they said it was less that 5% and the sales did not justify it.
 
Just use the steptronic feature and get the best of both worlds I've had a lot of manuals over my driving career, but would not go back - besides the wife would never drive one..................
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US July sales of Mazda 5 and Rondo by conwelpic
Aug 01, 2008 (1:40 pm)
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Mazda 5 - 1,336 units
Rondo - 2,556 units
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Re: Reports are that 2009 Rondo... [conwelpic] by coolmazda5
Aug 01, 2008 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Aug 01, 2008 1:35 pm)

Well, you may be surprised, especially in Canada. It is kind of interesting that even the Mazda5 GT top trim with all the toys (kind of the Grand Touring in the US) offers manual transmission. And from other forums you can see that there is more demand than supply for them...
 
As per the CR-V, yes, the MT was dropped, but because it is an SUV I believe. I tested the 05, one of the last models with 5MT, but my wife thought it was too tall and jumpy (very SUV or small truck if you ask), and we only test drove it because of that, because it had manual transmission.
 
Anyway, that is why I mentioned the new target market. I'm sure there are some people out there disappointed with models like the Rondo SX concept that only was shown as automatic.
 
As per wives, manual transmission topped the list of mine when buying a Mazda5, she can drive automatic by need (i.e. rental), but cannot stand it, don't ask why .
 
Tiptronic is a nice thing but it cannot compared to a modern manual transmission like the Mazda one, very soft clutch and close ratio gearing, precise shifting and a lot of fun to drive...
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kia rondo by palko
Aug 07, 2008 (9:49 am)
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I rented a Kia Rondo (2007,v-6) for a weekend trip to the beach Presque Isle Park in Erie,pa. The combined city/highway mileage was 23 mpg. Most of the highway was 70-75 mph with 3 people and a load of beach gear. This rental had 28000 miles on it and i did notice it had warped brake rotors when hard braking. Other than that it handled well. Far better than my 2004 chevy tracker 4wd. The v-6 had plenty of power. I'm thinking of buying a 2008. Now I'm torn between the 2.4L 4 cyl and the 2.7L v-6. Does anyone have any preference over either one? Plus I'd like to hear any experiences you may have with this vehicle...thanks..palko
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Re: kia rondo [palko] by conwelpic
Aug 07, 2008 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: palko (Aug 07, 2008 9:49 am)

as you are trying to decide between a 2.4L or 2.7L Rondo, this question should not be in this thread as this thread is comparing Mazda 5 vs Rondo.
 I would suggest you start a new thread with a suggested title of "Rondo 2.4L vs 2.7L" for example or something similar as I am sure that this is a pretty common question amongst prior owners, I know it was for me. Also that way you question would get a more direct response.
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Re: kia rondo [conwelpic][palko] by maltb
Aug 07, 2008 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Aug 07, 2008 11:58 am)

Or, you could test drive a Mazda5 and make it a ménage à trois
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Rondo 7 people test on hills and hwy by uzv
Aug 07, 2008 (3:20 pm)
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Had a chance to try Rondo (odometer 12,000 miles) in real life with real load.
My friend came in 6 cyl Rondo to Cape Code Nikkerson State Park (90miles from Boston) from Toronto.
Park is located on relativley steep hills and it is very twisty 4 miles from Park entrance to our camp on the very top.
With 4 adults (3 - 6ft 200 pouns, 1 - 5ft 6in 150pouns) + 3 kids 15 years old (you know they are not very small in US) Rondo (6cyl) did not have any problems going these 4 miles down and up with 7 people mentioned above.
Handling was Ok (but nothing special), power was more then enough.
Brakes - no complaints. No feeling that suspension was stressed or overloaded.
Then trip from Park to Provincetown - 30 miles one way by local hwy with the same load of 7 people at 50 mph.
Park to Provincetown trip:
Position-Behind the wheel: No problems passing other cars, handling is predictable (but nothing special). Ride is steady and even. Brakes are fine. Driver seat it comfortable. Visibility - very good (much better then in sedan). No road noise complaints. 2 15 years kids in back (3d row) seats - no complaints
Provincetown to Park trip:
Position- Back in 3d row (I'm 6 ft tall, 200 pouns): Comfort- Ok. Amazingly good
visibility side and forward. Road noise - no complaints. Ride is steady and even.
2nd and 3d rows - Very comfortable headrests (also noticed by one Honda Accord owner). 40 min 3d row trip for me (6ft) was fine but longer trips will not be comfortable. So for in town (or short out of town) trips Rondo looks good for 7 adults.
PS: When we arrived in Provicetown locals were a little bit surprised by how many
people managed to get out of relaively small car.

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