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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo

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Re: Mazda5 and minivan gas mileage [5_more] by coolmazda5
Jul 26, 2008 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: 5_more (Jul 25, 2008 1:58 pm)

LOL, I didn't know minivans were that fast. The problem is not how fast they accelerate but how tight they can turn .
 
Anyhow, regardless, check the Mazda5 acceleration for a 5MT, not bad for a 4cyl people mover.
 
Mazda5 Performance
Engine 2.3 I-4
Transmission 5-Spd Manual
Drive System fwd
Acceleration Summary
Acceleration, 0-30 MPH 0-30 MPH: 2.85
Acceleration, 0-40 MPH 0-40 MPH: 4.49
Acceleration, 0-50 MPH 0-50 MPH: 6.33
Acceleration, 0-60 MPH 0-60 MPH: 8.53
 
Source:
http://www.intellichoice.com/reports/vehicleReport/vehicle_nmb/17149/section/spe- cs/type/used/2006/Mazda/Mazda5
 
Also, some very old Mazda5 video, makes me laugh a little, but great handling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU4paH8qcQ8
 
And a fast Rondo (Carens). 150mph, 230kmh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6hgerWf0yc
 
It is funny seeing people doing this to these type of cars, but hey
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Mazda5 by 5_more
Jul 26, 2008 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 26, 2008 6:15 am)

Certainly, the 5 is a whole lot more fun around town, and on twisty roads. Cornering is vastly superior on the 5, and it does turn a circle in 2 fewer feet (34.8 vs. 36.8).
 
However, for the most part, my 0-60 times, on both vehicles, are in the 10-15 second range. I'd rather get better mileage, have a transmission last an extra 50,000 miles, and have my tires last longer than best a car that I already know I can beat, or prove that I that can take the same curve at the vehicle's limits time after time -- we all get old eventually.
 
I took my last Mazda to almost 250,000 miles on the original clutch. I sold the car shortly before that point, but the clutch was still working like new.
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NHTSA NCAP crash and rollover tests by coolmazda5
Jul 31, 2008 (4:32 am)
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2008 Mazda5 5-DR. Hatchback w/SAB
 
    * Frontal Driver Rating: 5 stars
    * Frontal Passenger Rating: 5 stars
    * Side Driver Rating: 5 stars
    * Side Rear Passenger Rating: 4 stars
    * Rollover 2 Wheel Drive Rating: 4 stars
 
Chance of rollover 14%
Static Stability Factor 1.30
Dynamic Test Result No-tip*
Drive FWD
Tire Size P205/50R17
 
2008 KIA Rondo 4-DR w/SAB
 
    * Frontal Driver Rating: 5 stars
    * Frontal Passenger Rating: 5 stars
    * Side Driver Rating: 5 stars
    * Side Rear Passenger Rating: 4 stars
    * Rollover 2 Wheel Drive Rating: 4 stars
 
Chance of rollover 13%
Static Stability Factor 1.32
Dynamic Test Result No-tip*
Drive FWD
Tire Size P205/60R16
 
Source:
http://www.safercar.gov/portal/search?model=7828
 
Some videos:
Frontal crash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qPGDrLIsww
Side impact: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWojbZkAJ0A
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Reports are that 2009 Rondo... by garnermike
Jul 31, 2008 (9:50 am)
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....will get the same Theta I-4 engine as the '09 Optima, which is rated at 175 hp and achieves better mpg (32 mpg hwy). That's a 13hp increase over '07 and '08 Rondo.
No news on the V-6 yet engine yet, but if it follows Optima form, the hp will go to 190, an 8 hp increase.
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Re: Reports are that 2009 Rondo... [garnermike] by coolmazda5
Jul 31, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: garnermike (Jul 31, 2008 9:50 am)

Is there a manual transmission on that thing finally? With that HP and MT it could definitely attract a different buyer audience
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Re: Reports are that 2009 Rondo... [coolmazda5] by bgw
Jul 31, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 31, 2008 11:26 am)

As much as I love my 07 EX V6 Luxury, I sure wish it had a manual trans. Maybe a 6 speed?
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Re: Reports are that 2009 Rondo... [bgw] by conwelpic
Aug 01, 2008 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: bgw (Jul 31, 2008 12:02 pm)

I doubt they would put one in, the percentage of the market that buys manual transmission is extremely small, thats why for example when Honda redesigned the CR-V they dropped it as they said it was less that 5% and the sales did not justify it.
 
Just use the steptronic feature and get the best of both worlds I've had a lot of manuals over my driving career, but would not go back - besides the wife would never drive one..................
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US July sales of Mazda 5 and Rondo by conwelpic
Aug 01, 2008 (1:40 pm)
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Mazda 5 - 1,336 units
Rondo - 2,556 units
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Re: Reports are that 2009 Rondo... [conwelpic] by coolmazda5
Aug 01, 2008 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Aug 01, 2008 1:35 pm)

Well, you may be surprised, especially in Canada. It is kind of interesting that even the Mazda5 GT top trim with all the toys (kind of the Grand Touring in the US) offers manual transmission. And from other forums you can see that there is more demand than supply for them...
 
As per the CR-V, yes, the MT was dropped, but because it is an SUV I believe. I tested the 05, one of the last models with 5MT, but my wife thought it was too tall and jumpy (very SUV or small truck if you ask), and we only test drove it because of that, because it had manual transmission.
 
Anyway, that is why I mentioned the new target market. I'm sure there are some people out there disappointed with models like the Rondo SX concept that only was shown as automatic.
 
As per wives, manual transmission topped the list of mine when buying a Mazda5, she can drive automatic by need (i.e. rental), but cannot stand it, don't ask why .
 
Tiptronic is a nice thing but it cannot compared to a modern manual transmission like the Mazda one, very soft clutch and close ratio gearing, precise shifting and a lot of fun to drive...
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kia rondo by palko
Aug 07, 2008 (9:49 am)
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I rented a Kia Rondo (2007,v-6) for a weekend trip to the beach Presque Isle Park in Erie,pa. The combined city/highway mileage was 23 mpg. Most of the highway was 70-75 mph with 3 people and a load of beach gear. This rental had 28000 miles on it and i did notice it had warped brake rotors when hard braking. Other than that it handled well. Far better than my 2004 chevy tracker 4wd. The v-6 had plenty of power. I'm thinking of buying a 2008. Now I'm torn between the 2.4L 4 cyl and the 2.7L v-6. Does anyone have any preference over either one? Plus I'd like to hear any experiences you may have with this vehicle...thanks..palko

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