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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo

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Re: Mazda5 and minivan gas mileage [5_more] by lavrishevo
Jul 25, 2008 (12:23 am)
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Replying to: 5_more (Jul 22, 2008 6:43 pm)

JUst FYI, the Sienna does not do 0 - 60 under 7 seconds. No minivan comes close to that. 7.8 - 8.2 are the recorded times for stock Sienna. Still fast but not that fast... Compared to my 4.9 in a Mustang GT
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Re: Mazda5 and minivan gas mileage [lavrishevo] by 5_more
Jul 25, 2008 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: lavrishevo (Jul 25, 2008 12:23 am)

It all depends how it's driven (Sienna). The engine can easily break the tires free in 1 and 2.
 
If shifted manually, and if the tires are kept from spinning, a sub-7 second time is possible.
 
6.6 seconds
http://www.autos.com/autos/vans/minivans/acceleration
 
7.2 seconds
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/vans/2007_hyundai_entourage_- vs_2007_nissan_quest_2008_dodge_grand_caravan_2007_toyota_sienna_2007_honda_odys- sey_comparison_test+page-5.html
 
video in the low 7's, with comments of 6.9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gadUoJnEzfs
 
Other examples are out there.
 
Test drive one. You'll be surprised.
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Re: Mazda5 and minivan gas mileage [5_more] by coolmazda5
Jul 26, 2008 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: 5_more (Jul 25, 2008 1:58 pm)

LOL, I didn't know minivans were that fast. The problem is not how fast they accelerate but how tight they can turn .
 
Anyhow, regardless, check the Mazda5 acceleration for a 5MT, not bad for a 4cyl people mover.
 
Mazda5 Performance
Engine 2.3 I-4
Transmission 5-Spd Manual
Drive System fwd
Acceleration Summary
Acceleration, 0-30 MPH 0-30 MPH: 2.85
Acceleration, 0-40 MPH 0-40 MPH: 4.49
Acceleration, 0-50 MPH 0-50 MPH: 6.33
Acceleration, 0-60 MPH 0-60 MPH: 8.53
 
Source:
http://www.intellichoice.com/reports/vehicleReport/vehicle_nmb/17149/section/spe- cs/type/used/2006/Mazda/Mazda5
 
Also, some very old Mazda5 video, makes me laugh a little, but great handling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU4paH8qcQ8
 
And a fast Rondo (Carens). 150mph, 230kmh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6hgerWf0yc
 
It is funny seeing people doing this to these type of cars, but hey
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Mazda5 by 5_more
Jul 26, 2008 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 26, 2008 6:15 am)

Certainly, the 5 is a whole lot more fun around town, and on twisty roads. Cornering is vastly superior on the 5, and it does turn a circle in 2 fewer feet (34.8 vs. 36.8).
 
However, for the most part, my 0-60 times, on both vehicles, are in the 10-15 second range. I'd rather get better mileage, have a transmission last an extra 50,000 miles, and have my tires last longer than best a car that I already know I can beat, or prove that I that can take the same curve at the vehicle's limits time after time -- we all get old eventually.
 
I took my last Mazda to almost 250,000 miles on the original clutch. I sold the car shortly before that point, but the clutch was still working like new.
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NHTSA NCAP crash and rollover tests by coolmazda5
Jul 31, 2008 (4:32 am)
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2008 Mazda5 5-DR. Hatchback w/SAB
 
    * Frontal Driver Rating: 5 stars
    * Frontal Passenger Rating: 5 stars
    * Side Driver Rating: 5 stars
    * Side Rear Passenger Rating: 4 stars
    * Rollover 2 Wheel Drive Rating: 4 stars
 
Chance of rollover 14%
Static Stability Factor 1.30
Dynamic Test Result No-tip*
Drive FWD
Tire Size P205/50R17
 
2008 KIA Rondo 4-DR w/SAB
 
    * Frontal Driver Rating: 5 stars
    * Frontal Passenger Rating: 5 stars
    * Side Driver Rating: 5 stars
    * Side Rear Passenger Rating: 4 stars
    * Rollover 2 Wheel Drive Rating: 4 stars
 
Chance of rollover 13%
Static Stability Factor 1.32
Dynamic Test Result No-tip*
Drive FWD
Tire Size P205/60R16
 
Source:
http://www.safercar.gov/portal/search?model=7828
 
Some videos:
Frontal crash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qPGDrLIsww
Side impact: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWojbZkAJ0A
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Reports are that 2009 Rondo... by garnermike
Jul 31, 2008 (9:50 am)
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....will get the same Theta I-4 engine as the '09 Optima, which is rated at 175 hp and achieves better mpg (32 mpg hwy). That's a 13hp increase over '07 and '08 Rondo.
No news on the V-6 yet engine yet, but if it follows Optima form, the hp will go to 190, an 8 hp increase.
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Re: Reports are that 2009 Rondo... [garnermike] by coolmazda5
Jul 31, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: garnermike (Jul 31, 2008 9:50 am)

Is there a manual transmission on that thing finally? With that HP and MT it could definitely attract a different buyer audience
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Re: Reports are that 2009 Rondo... [coolmazda5] by bgw
Jul 31, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 31, 2008 11:26 am)

As much as I love my 07 EX V6 Luxury, I sure wish it had a manual trans. Maybe a 6 speed?
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Re: Reports are that 2009 Rondo... [bgw] by conwelpic
Aug 01, 2008 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: bgw (Jul 31, 2008 12:02 pm)

I doubt they would put one in, the percentage of the market that buys manual transmission is extremely small, thats why for example when Honda redesigned the CR-V they dropped it as they said it was less that 5% and the sales did not justify it.
 
Just use the steptronic feature and get the best of both worlds I've had a lot of manuals over my driving career, but would not go back - besides the wife would never drive one..................
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US July sales of Mazda 5 and Rondo by conwelpic
Aug 01, 2008 (1:40 pm)
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Mazda 5 - 1,336 units
Rondo - 2,556 units

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