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Replying to: 5_more (Jul 22, 2008 6:43 pm) I filled-up this weekend for $3.739 (87 Octane). Diesel was $5.139 at the same station. Dollars/mile, matter to me, not MPG. At these prices, diesel offers no advantage. At a smaller percentage spread, it might, depending on the difference in purchase price between a diesel and gasoline engine, the mileage difference and the difference in repair costs. " Diesel would not show an advantage at those prices, but I think you found a station with extreme prices; extremely low for gas and extremely high for diesel. Today's National average is $4.04 for gas and $4.80 for diesel. Using those figures, diesel cost approx 19% more than gas so if you got 30% more miles from each gallon, your cost per mile for diesel would be cheaper than gas. Of course as you pointed out you would also have to factor in having the extra expense of the diesel engine option and the downside of finding and using diesel fuel. John |
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Replying to: 5_more (Jul 22, 2008 6:43 pm) 
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Replying to: lavrishevo (Jul 25, 2008 12:23 am) If shifted manually, and if the tires are kept from spinning, a sub-7 second time is possible. 6.6 seconds http://www.autos.com/autos/vans/minivans/acceleration 7.2 seconds http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/vans/2007_hyundai_entourage_- vs_2007_nissan_quest_2008_dodge_grand_caravan_2007_toyota_sienna_2007_honda_odys- sey_comparison_test+page-5.html video in the low 7's, with comments of 6.9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gadUoJnEzfs Other examples are out there. Test drive one. You'll be surprised.
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Replying to: 5_more (Jul 25, 2008 1:58 pm)  . Anyhow, regardless, check the Mazda5 acceleration for a 5MT, not bad for a 4cyl people mover. Mazda5 Performance Engine 2.3 I-4 Transmission 5-Spd Manual Drive System fwd Acceleration Summary Acceleration, 0-30 MPH 0-30 MPH: 2.85 Acceleration, 0-40 MPH 0-40 MPH: 4.49 Acceleration, 0-50 MPH 0-50 MPH: 6.33 Acceleration, 0-60 MPH 0-60 MPH: 8.53 Source: http://www.intellichoice.com/reports/vehicleReport/vehicle_nmb/17149/section/spe- cs/type/used/2006/Mazda/Mazda5 Also, some very old Mazda5 video, makes me laugh a little, but great handling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU4paH8qcQ8 And a fast Rondo (Carens). 150mph, 230kmh  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6hgerWf0yc It is funny seeing people doing this to these type of cars, but hey
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 26, 2008 6:15 am) However, for the most part, my 0-60 times, on both vehicles, are in the 10-15 second range. I'd rather get better mileage, have a transmission last an extra 50,000 miles, and have my tires last longer than best a car that I already know I can beat, or prove that I that can take the same curve at the vehicle's limits time after time -- we all get old eventually. I took my last Mazda to almost 250,000 miles on the original clutch. I sold the car shortly before that point, but the clutch was still working like new. |
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2008 Mazda5 5-DR. Hatchback w/SAB * Frontal Driver Rating: 5 stars * Frontal Passenger Rating: 5 stars * Side Driver Rating: 5 stars * Side Rear Passenger Rating: 4 stars * Rollover 2 Wheel Drive Rating: 4 stars Chance of rollover 14% Static Stability Factor 1.30 Dynamic Test Result No-tip* Drive FWD Tire Size P205/50R17 2008 KIA Rondo 4-DR w/SAB * Frontal Driver Rating: 5 stars * Frontal Passenger Rating: 5 stars * Side Driver Rating: 5 stars * Side Rear Passenger Rating: 4 stars * Rollover 2 Wheel Drive Rating: 4 stars Chance of rollover 13% Static Stability Factor 1.32 Dynamic Test Result No-tip* Drive FWD Tire Size P205/60R16 Source: http://www.safercar.gov/portal/search?model=7828 Some videos: Frontal crash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qPGDrLIsww Side impact: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWojbZkAJ0A __________________ |
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....will get the same Theta I-4 engine as the '09 Optima, which is rated at 175 hp and achieves better mpg (32 mpg hwy). That's a 13hp increase over '07 and '08 Rondo. No news on the V-6 yet engine yet, but if it follows Optima form, the hp will go to 190, an 8 hp increase.
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Replying to: garnermike (Jul 31, 2008 9:50 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 31, 2008 11:26 am)
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Replying to: bgw (Jul 31, 2008 12:02 pm) Just use the steptronic feature and get the best of both worlds I've had a lot of manuals over my driving career, but would not go back - besides the wife would never drive one..................
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