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I'm 6 ft tall and currently own Dodge Caravan (short ver) with 7 seats and looking to replace with smaller but 6-7 seat. 1. Visited Mazda dealer and played just with Mazda5 seats for 15 min: Adjusted seats to the BEST possible sitting for myself (6ft tall) in ALL rows (1,2,3) The result: 1 row - good 2 row- so-so : problem with feet (does not fit well under 1 row seat) 3 row - bad : feet just does not feet under 2nd row seat There is solution but for only one foot - to stuck it between 2nd row seats (other foot has to be cut of to be comfortable) So Mazda5 3d row - for kids ONLY. 2. Visited KIA dealer and played just with Rondo seats for the same 15 min: Adjusted seats to the BEST possible sitting for myself (6ft tall) in ALL rows (1,2,3) The result: 1 row - good 2 row- good 3 row - Ok : head is very close to ceiling So Rondo 3d row - Ok for 6ft adults IMPORTANT: the main thing is to readjust ALL rows to achieve good result in each row
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Replying to: uzv (Jul 16, 2008 11:10 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 18, 2008 7:30 am) BIG cars as mainstream are dead (only for that ones who do not care about price of gas) - which is well confirmed by almost funeral state of GM/Ford, etc It's actually very happy time for US - FINALY to open eyes and see what a mess we created in sense of cars we drive
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Replying to: uzv (Jul 18, 2008 2:51 pm) Exactly! I could have bought an 07 Dodge Caravan but I chose to look at the Mazda5 and Rondo. I bought a Rondo V6, since it is big enough for my family's needs but not too big. Good point, Uzv!
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Replying to: bgw (Jul 18, 2008 3:55 pm)  . I did not see that as the "main point", but I understand. Keep on mind that the models did NOT show up in 2008 in NA, but is interesting to see how trends change. I bought my first one in 2005 before the gas craze and the theme was more like a "small people mover on a budget", nothing else. My wife is originally from Europe where petrol was already pricey so for her was perfect. Now with a $4+ a gallon everybody is turning around to buy them and they are selling well. Don't take me wrong but I see now more people sacrificing comfort by cramping up these cars due to the price and better gas mileage, which is natural. I think Mazda and KIA had just luck on the early timing when bringing these models to the NA market 
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 19, 2008 4:05 am) Again, people are buying them to save $ because of gas but they're really saving because of the lower purchase price, which has nothing to do with the price of gas. In fact, these little cars are being less discounted due to the high gas prices. Anyway, just some thoughts. I just wonder why the same people who say they're buying small because of the gas weren't so worried about the total purchase price when gas was cheap. It's even more strange to me to hear someone going from a $40K SUV to a $20K economy car to save gas. They don't even mention the fact that they just saved $20K on the purchase prices, but are more interested in the $20 bucks a week they'll save in gas! Pretty strange logic to me!
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jul 20, 2008 2:56 pm) Hybrid Vehicles Not Best Value According to Edmunds.com http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080- 625005404&newsLang=en |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jul 20, 2008 2:56 pm) Also it looks like Mazada/Rondo does not have really good MPG - but I think they can improve it. I'm less optimistic about MPG improvement for big minivans as they had a lot of time to do it with no result. I'm speaking about old fashion improvement (without hybrid). Diesel will also big help as it takes about 30% less fuel. About less comfort in smaller cars - yes we have to give up comfort that we can not afford. I think next on funeral list are big houses (and actually not so big like 2500-3000 sq.ft.) as people will not be able to pay heating and electric /AC bills
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A reporter would like to speak with consumers who are thinking about trading in a gas-guzzler for a more fuel-efficient vehicle. If you are in the process of making this decision, please respond to jwahl edmunds.com with your daytime contact information no later than Wednesday, July 22nd.
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Mazda 5: June 2008 - 1,281 vs 1,156 for June 2007 YTD 2008 - 7,848 vs 6,398 for June 2007 Rondo June 2008 - 935 vs 830 for Jun 2007 YTD 2008 - 5,170 vs 3,445 for June 2007 for US readers keep in mind that the US market is 9.5 times larger than Canada |
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