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Don't wait long, Mazda5 is a top mover... by coolmazda5
Jul 10, 2008 (10:24 am)
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If you have decided that a Mazda5 is the one, don't wait long...
 
The family sedan and wagon aren’t the hot sellers they once were, but there are quite a few new models that are selling quickly, like the Chevy Malibu and Mazda5. The Kia Optima is a surprise on the list, but it also had significant incentives in June as dealers prepared for the upcoming 2009 model, which goes on sale later this year. Check out the losers and luxury winners and losers below.
 
Top 10 Sedan, Hatchback and Wagon Movers
 
    * 2008 Toyota Prius: 4 days
    * 2009 Toyota Camry Hybrid: 10 days
    * 2009 VW Jetta SportWagen: 13 days
    * 2008 Kia Optima: 23 days
    * 2008 Chevy Malibu: 24 days
    * 2008 Chevy Impala: 25 days
    * 2008 Honda Accord: 25 days
    * 2008 Nissan Altima Hybrid: 25 days
    * 2008 Mazda5: 28 days
    * 2008 Pontiac G8: 30 days
 

 
Source:
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2008/07/movers-and-lo-3.html
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Re: Mazda5 Test Drive [raderator] by athenasius
Jul 11, 2008 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: raderator (Feb 06, 2007 6:06 pm)

i hear you re the gap in the middle seat for the dog but mine has gotten used to it. As for the laying down on the floor why not just take the head rest off the front seat and lean it all the way back and it makes into a bed in conjunction with the middle row seat(not as good as a bed but quite adequate).
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US sales for June Rondo and Mazda 5 by conwelpic
Jul 11, 2008 (4:31 pm)
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Mazda 5
June 2008: 1,416 units vs 1,096 for June 2007
YTD 2008: 11,977 vs 8,309 for 2007
 
Rondo
June 2008: 2,172 vs 4,139 for June 2007
YTD 2008: 15,974 vs 9,996 for 2007
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3d row for 6ft tall: Rondo vs Mazda by uzv
Jul 16, 2008 (11:10 am)
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I'm 6 ft tall and currently own Dodge Caravan (short ver) with 7 seats and looking to replace with smaller but 6-7 seat.
1.
Visited Mazda dealer and played just with Mazda5 seats for 15 min:
Adjusted seats to the BEST possible sitting for myself (6ft tall) in ALL rows (1,2,3)
The result:
1 row - good
2 row- so-so : problem with feet (does not fit well under 1 row seat)
3 row - bad : feet just does not feet under 2nd row seat
                     There is solution but for only one foot - to stuck it between
                     2nd row seats (other foot has to be cut of to be comfortable)
So Mazda5 3d row - for kids ONLY.
2.
Visited KIA dealer and played just with Rondo seats for the same 15 min:
Adjusted seats to the BEST possible sitting for myself (6ft tall) in ALL rows (1,2,3)
The result:
1 row - good
2 row- good
3 row - Ok : head is very close to ceiling
So Rondo 3d row - Ok for 6ft adults
IMPORTANT: the main thing is to readjust ALL rows to achieve good result in each row
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Re: 3d row for 6ft tall: Rondo vs Mazda [uzv] by coolmazda5
Jul 18, 2008 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: uzv (Jul 16, 2008 11:10 am)

I'm 5'11" and after all the pics posted earlier in this thread, I would not buy either a Mazda5 nor a Rondo based on the ability of myself to seat on the 2nd or 3rd row. My main need is family (with small kids). For 2nd/3rd row adult seating needs I would buy a mercury Grand Marquis or may be a massive minivan. Adults sit on the 2nd and 3row seats 2-5% of the time on my case (mostly 2nd row, which is OK. I own 2 Mazda5s)
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Re: 3d row for 6ft tall: Rondo vs Mazda [coolmazda5] by uzv
Jul 18, 2008 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 18, 2008 7:30 am)

The main point of Mazda/Rondo is to get away from BIG cars and still have ability to take 7 people (of course not every day - but when needed).
BIG cars as mainstream are dead (only for that ones who do not care about price of gas) - which is well confirmed by almost funeral state of GM/Ford, etc
It's actually very happy time for US - FINALY to open eyes and see what a mess
we created in sense of cars we drive
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Re: 3d row for 6ft tall: Rondo vs Mazda [uzv] by bgw
Jul 18, 2008 (3:55 pm)
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Replying to: uzv (Jul 18, 2008 2:51 pm)

Uzv said "The main point of Mazda/Rondo is to get away from BIG cars and still have ability to take 7 people (of course not every day - but when needed)."
Exactly!
I could have bought an 07 Dodge Caravan but I chose to look at the Mazda5 and Rondo. I bought a Rondo V6, since it is big enough for my family's needs but not too big.
Good point, Uzv!
#532 of 803
Re: 3d row for 6ft tall: Rondo vs Mazda [bgw] by coolmazda5
Jul 19, 2008 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: bgw (Jul 18, 2008 3:55 pm)

Uzv said "The main point of Mazda/Rondo is to get away from BIG cars and still have ability to take 7 people (of course not every day - but when needed)."
 
. I did not see that as the "main point", but I understand.
 
Keep on mind that the models did NOT show up in 2008 in NA, but is interesting to see how trends change. I bought my first one in 2005 before the gas craze and the theme was more like a "small people mover on a budget", nothing else. My wife is originally from Europe where petrol was already pricey so for her was perfect.
 
Now with a $4+ a gallon everybody is turning around to buy them and they are selling well. Don't take me wrong but I see now more people sacrificing comfort by cramping up these cars due to the price and better gas mileage, which is natural.
 
I think Mazda and KIA had just luck on the early timing when bringing these models to the NA market
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Re: 3d row for 6ft tall: Rondo vs Mazda [coolmazda5] by bobw3
Jul 20, 2008 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 19, 2008 4:05 am)

It's funny on the one hand because even though people are buying the Mazda5 or Rondo to get better MPG, they'll probably only AVERAGE in the low 20s vs high teens as with a full sized minivan, or save about $700 per year on gas, while their real savings is the $5-10,000 they'll save on the initial purchase price. So they would have saved that at $1/gal gas. If gas was $2/gal they'd save $350/year, so the real gas savings difference from going from $2 to $4 gas is $350/year.
 
 Again, people are buying them to save $ because of gas but they're really saving because of the lower purchase price, which has nothing to do with the price of gas. In fact, these little cars are being less discounted due to the high gas prices. Anyway, just some thoughts. I just wonder why the same people who say they're buying small because of the gas weren't so worried about the total purchase price when gas was cheap.
 
 It's even more strange to me to hear someone going from a $40K SUV to a $20K economy car to save gas. They don't even mention the fact that they just saved $20K on the purchase prices, but are more interested in the $20 bucks a week they'll save in gas! Pretty strange logic to me!
#534 of 803
Re: 3d row for 6ft tall: Rondo vs Mazda [bobw3] by coolmazda5
Jul 20, 2008 (5:02 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jul 20, 2008 2:56 pm)

I've read something similar about the hybrids, especially when you pay the hefty markup nowadays for things like the Prius.
 
Hybrid Vehicles Not Best Value According to Edmunds.com
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080- 625005404&newsLang=en

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