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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo

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Re: To nissmazlover [coolmazda5] by tmurphy
Jun 17, 2008 (8:55 am)
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Whad' I tell ya.
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It may well parse out that way by garnermike
Jun 17, 2008 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jun 17, 2008 6:48 am)

I partially fit your Rondo audience profile (older, no kids to deal with anymore). But I preferred the LX I-4 for mpg reasons, and I don't care for leather in a car, nor the capability of its sound system. As for "looks", beauty is in the eye of the beholder---I kinda like the way a Rondo looks. Besides, I own 2 other georgeous cars, and 5 in all, so if any one car I owned was ugly, I wouldn't worry about those bad looks somehow reflecting poorly on me or my taste
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Re: Nissmazlover seems to want to take over this thread? [bgw] by radar1
Jun 17, 2008 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: bgw (Jun 16, 2008 1:33 pm)

BQW,
 
Your post sounds pretty much the same as what I discovered while test driving these vehicles.
I was looking for a replacement for our Focus hatchback and tested the M5, Rondo, and Subaru Outback wagon and Forester. I liked every one of them for different reasons. I had pretty much decided the Rondo was the one for us, but the Subaru dealer gave us such a great trade in on the Outback, that's what we got.
Although I liked the M5, two items that made me wary of purchasing one was the "not recommended" towing rating in the USA, and the fact that they still haven't provided any USA crash test ratings after all these years.
Only the Rondo and Subaru provide the manufacturers tow rating for my pop up camper. If I bought the M5 it would mean I'd have to get rid of the camper, (and even the small utility trailer I have) or be forced to keep my truck for towing.
(My daily beater is a 2005 Hyundai Accent hatchback 5-sp 37 MPG)
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Re: Nissmazlover seems to want to take over this thread? [radar1] by kubas
Jun 17, 2008 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: radar1 (Jun 17, 2008 9:12 am)

>>Although I liked the M5, two items that made me wary of purchasing one was the "not recommended" towing rating in the USA, and the fact that they still haven't provided any USA crash test ratings after all these years.
 
EuroNCAP crash results for M5 are much better than for the Rondo. As a matter of fact most of the korean cars who have 5 star ratings in the USA are rated 4 star only in Europe.
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Re: It may well parse out that way [garnermike] by coolmazda5
Jun 17, 2008 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: garnermike (Jun 17, 2008 8:58 am)

Yeah, I don't own that many cars (I can only afford 2 ) but I rent a lot from work. Mazda has surprised me for its handling and finish for a car its price (even on the most basic trim, including people movers)
 
And yes, I have not rented a Rondo but I have rented from the KIA+Hyundai family and their handling and interior quality have turned me off. Same as when I rent cars like Chevy Malibus, Dodge Avengers, Toyota RAV4, Toyota Sienna, Chrysler T&C, Saturn VUEs and even a Chevy Impala SS
 
KIA+Hyundai family cars rented, decent engine and features but not impressed on handling nor finish:
- Hyundai Sonata (twice)
- KIA Rio
 
From Mazda. Rented, not fancy Ferraris but really liked:
- Mazda6
- Mazda3
- Mazda MPV
- Mazda5 AT. Believe it or not, I got one the other day and was OK, even AT
 
And as I posted earlier, I saw a leather Rondo on the rental area the other day, I honestly thought it was vinyl
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Re: Nissmazlover seems to want to take over this thread? [kubas] by kubas
Jun 17, 2008 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: kubas (Jun 17, 2008 10:57 am)

Kia Rondo - 4 stars
 
Front: 9
Side: 15
 
Comments
Front impact
Although the drivers footwell did not rupture, there was extensive deformation and the clutch pedal moved rearward by 175mm, leading to a weak rating for protection of the driver's lower leg, feet and ankles. Structures in the dashboard presented a risk of injury to the knees and femurs of the driver and passenger.
 
Side impact
The Carens scored maximum points based on the dummy responses in the side impact and pole tests. However, the driver's door became unlatched in the side impact and the car was penalised for this.
 
Mazda 5 (2005) - 5 stars
 
Front: 13
Side: 16
 
Front impact
There was heavy distortion and rupture of the driver's footwell in the frontal test. The pedals presented a risk of injury to the driver's lower legs. Structures in the dashboard represented a potential hazard to the knees and femurs.
 
Side impact
The car scored maximum points for its performance in the side impact and pole tests.
 
NHTSA frontal test is conducted at 56 km/h (35 mi/h). EuroNCAP represents a more severe crash than the NHTSA test as it is performed at 64 km/h (40 mph) into an offset deformable barrier.
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Mazda 5 vs. Subaru Forester 09 by prndldriver
Jun 17, 2008 (12:23 pm)
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The new Forester 09 finally has all the safety features I was looking for and a better design than the clunky square look. I was justgetting down to figuring out good pricing and realizing I was going to have to drive up to Chicago to get a decent price.
 
Then I saw a Mazda 5 in the church parking lot and talked very briefly to the owners. Originally I had thought it was the Mazda CX-9, but realized it was smaller. While lots of auto writers are falling over backward with praise on the CX-9, the fact that it uses premium gas turned me off. Still the reviews intrigued me. So I have now been researching the Mazda 5 and have been pleasantly surprised. The lack of DSC sort of bothers me. The Forester has AWD and a higher ground clearance. These both are appealing when driving in Midwestern snowstorms.
 
So, how does the Mazda 5 drive in snow? How much smaller does it feel in interior sitting room than a Honda CR-V or similarly a Forester 09? (I think there's more cargo space in the 5, but smaller sitting space.) Does it bother anyone that these cars are so limited in sales it could be hard to get them repaired beyond the dealer? Or, is it possible to go to a Ford dealer as well? How much pep does the engine actually have? It smaller than the CR-V and I thought that lacked much stamina. That's why I was attracted, for awhile, to the Mitsubishi Outlander, but could not get a decent deal on that and some in the family thought it was cheaply made and had too many gadgets. Also, we're not a highly technical family and one of the appeals is that Subarus are reliable. We've had one for 15 years and are almost at 200,000 miles. The 5 is too new for long term reliability numbers, but what's been your experience?
 
I'm partially asking these questions because I am going to have to drive at least 50 miles just to test drive this thing (or hope that that family is back in church on Sunday...). Thanks for any help. I've found reading this forum interesting

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