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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo

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#403 of 806
Can't address leather vs. fabric seats by garnermike
Jun 12, 2008 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: kubas (Jun 11, 2008 5:12 pm)

I have fabric.
 
Per staining issue, I wonder what that stain source was (at the suvs.about.com URL)? My curiousity stems from the fact that I have had no problems removing a couple of stains (unknown source) from the shotgun seat in my Rondo.
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Re: Why surprised? [garnermike] by nissmazlover
Jun 12, 2008 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: garnermike (Jun 11, 2008 3:40 pm)

I never said that the Rondo was a horrible car. If you go back and read my post properly, you will clearly see that I identified the steering quality as "horrible". Also, I never said that Rondo owners made a "wrong choice". Again, if you learn how to read things objectively without getting so worked up about it, you will see that I stated that Rondo owners who think that the Rondo is better than the 5 are deluded. The delusion does not apply to someone merely choosing/buying the Rondo, but in such individual thinking that it's a better car than the 5, which is not the case.
 
Mind you, I really wanted to like the Rondo. I had never driven a Kia before, and am a Hyundai fan. I was, actually, very excited about it. But, from the moment I stepped in until the moment I returned the car, I was disappointed with it. Nevertheless, I still wrote quite a few positive things about it, which, again, you will see if you read back on the post (no need to repost them).
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Re: I'm sorry, but... [bgw] by nissmazlover
Jun 12, 2008 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: bgw (Jun 11, 2008 1:32 pm)

So, the only response you can give to my review of the Rondo is a childish accusation claiming I never even drove it? Interesting. Plus, you agree with the statement that my review was nothing more than an emotional diatribe regardless of the number of facts and details I included in it, detrails that only an actual driver of a vehicle would know? Fascinating. And, to top it all off, you're stating that the Rondo is "quite a bit better than an M5"? Hmmm...
 
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present you with Subject A: "bgw" - An unfortunate sufferer of the aforementioned delusion.
 
I only take pictures of cars that I like. So, I do not have any pictures of the Rondo itself. That being said, my friends took pictures from inside the car and I will be posting them later today (gotta get the pics from them). Rest assured, I DID drive the Rondo extensively from Thursday, May 22nd until Monday, May 26th, which is the day I became fed up with it and exchanged it for the Scion XD, which I kept until the end of my vacation. Please prepare yourself for our special of the day: A delicious entree, which we call "Your", along with a succulent side of "Words". Ready to eat up?
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Re: Good that you feel that way [garnermike] by nissmazlover
Jun 12, 2008 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: garnermike (Jun 11, 2008 11:39 am)

I don't know...call me crazy...but last I checked this was the Mazda 5 section of Edmunds' Car Space forum. More specifically, the Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo sub-section. Am I wrong?
 
I, honestly, am interested in reading the reviews you say you have seen stating that the Rondo bests the 5. Can you please post these links for our reading enjoyment? Thanks.
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Re: Why surprised? [nissmazlover] by bobw3
Jun 12, 2008 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: nissmazlover (Jun 12, 2008 7:51 am)

The Mazda5 vs Rondo discussion reminds me of my decision to buy the Honda Fit over the Nissan Versa. While the Versa had a slightly roomier back seat, it was the versatility, handling characteristics, MPG and interior quality that won me to the Fit.
 
I'm looking at replacing our larger car with a small 3-row vehicle and I've been researching/testing the Mazda5 and Rondo a lot and I've come to a simliar conclusion as when I was researching/testing the Fit & Versa.
 
While the Rondo has a slighly larger 2nd row, the driving dynamics, interior quality, MPG and versatility (i.e. sliding doors, underseat storage, etc) of the Mazda5 make it the winner to me over the Rondo.
 
Plus it's hard for the AC in Rondo to reach the 3rd row because of the 2nd row bench vs the captain chairs of the Mazda5.
 
That being said, if I had a towing requirement or a need for 7 pass seating, then I wouldn't buy a Mazda5.
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Re: I'm sorry, but... [maltb] by nissmazlover
Jun 12, 2008 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: maltb (Jun 11, 2008 2:19 pm)

Thanks, Maltb! I agree. Those two responses were definitely pretty empty.
 
Considering how detailed I was in my post, I thought I would get much more intelligent, objective and detailed responses. But, I guess I was hoping for too much.
 
I take it you're a 5 owner?
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Re: I'm sorry, but... [mrbwa1] by nissmazlover
Jun 12, 2008 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: mrbwa1 (Jun 11, 2008 2:16 pm)

I agree with your statement about polarizing views in forums. Thanks for that.
 
I didn't get to drive an EX model. I rented a silver LX, 4-cyl, 7seater model. But, in all curiosity, is the EX really that much nicer? I mean, I'm sure it would offer more options, but does it also come with important things that would truly make it a better car (like an upgraded suspension; retuned steering and brakes, more comfortable seats, better interior materials, etc.)?
 
The Rondo also offers a 6-cyl engine, but, besides its subpar fuel economy and refinement compared to the 5, I didn't find fault with the 4-cylinder. I still liked the engine! There were just too many other things I didn't like about the Rondo LX. (I can't imagine how much worse the economy would be with the 6.)
 
The Mazda 5 Sport is still the same great car as the Grand Touring version minus some frills - still offers the same great engine, 5-speed auto w/manual function, suspension, steering and brakes and even rims, cruise control and an auxiliary port(!). So, choosing a Sport over a GT just comes down to whether or not leather, sunroof, bluetooth, HID/LED lights, auto wipers, etc. are that important to you, you know? For me, it was. I have a GT. But, again, no concessions need be made about the Sport since it's the same car. If what you and others are saying about the difference between an LX and an EX of the Rondo is true, than the same can't be said about the Rondo - and that sucks for LX owners
 
And I am totally a huge fan of the 5's sliding doors! They are SO convenient and easy to use! They open up real wide and offer a level of practicality in them that the Rondo can't provide...especially with kids! Good point! Love them, too.
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Re: I'm sorry, but... [bgw] by nissmazlover
Jun 12, 2008 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: bgw (Jun 11, 2008 4:45 pm)

Again, sorry, but if someone TRULY needs a vehicle that will regularly seat 7 people comfortably, the Rondo is a poor choice. I've experienced its supposed "7-seat capacity" and it is dismal. Four adults with two small children at most will be comfortable in the Rondo, which is basically the same for the M5 - though the 5 offers much more comfortable, separate captain chairs for the two adults in the middle. If one needs a vehicle to comfortably fit 6 to 7 people on a regular basis, one should go for a regular-sized minivan, or larger crossover vehicle, not a Rondo or even an M5.
 
As far as towing goes: I mean, really. How many people really tow? What percentage of the american car owner population uses their car for towing? It can't be a whole lot. I can't speak for the area in which you live, but here in NY I hardly ever see anyone towing anything. So, the fact that the M5 isn't rated for towing is a moot point for most people.
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Re: Can't address leather vs. fabric seats [garnermike] by kubas
Jun 12, 2008 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: garnermike (Jun 12, 2008 7:00 am)

I believe it was just plain water. I also read a few Rondo user opinions who had the exact same problem. Nevertheless i was looking for the leather so it was no big deal to me, but I thought it might be for someone else.
 
There is another factor I forgot to mention before, why I decided to go with the M5. I called my insurance agent and asked him for the quotes for both the Rondo EX and M5 GT. The quote for M5 was almost 300$ less (I live in MA and the insurance rates suck).
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Nissmazlover seems to want to take over this thread? by bgw
Jun 12, 2008 (12:20 pm)
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Egad, my tongue-in-cheek reply to Nissmazlover sure put a bug up his butt, didn't it?
 
"The fact that the M5 isn't rated for towing is a moot point for most people" - it was not a moot point for me.
 
You have to stop putting words in other people's mouths, nissmazlover. Oh wait, I suffer delusions, apparently...
 
I love my Rondo, which is better in every respect than your M5.
You love your M5, which is better in every respect than my Rondo.
'Nuff said.

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