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Replying to: rockytee (Dec 01, 2006 6:24 am) Does it have arm rest for the driver and passenger up front? Do the 2nd row seats fold flat and does it recline? I don't know for sure on the spare tire. There's a picture here: Rondo rear storage compartment that seems to suggest that there would not be much space to put the spare in from the inside, so I would guess that it's most likely from underneath. Armrest: yes. 2nd row fold flat: yes (after removing headrests). Go to the Kia website I linked above, and find the interior pictures. They show the armrest & what the 2nd row looks like folded flat.
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Replying to: rockytee (Dec 01, 2006 6:24 am) Yes there is one arm rest for the driver and passenger. It is adequate (not like the Rio5). Second row seats fold flat and recline.
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Replying to: dbt (Dec 01, 2006 6:58 am) |
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Replying to: dakota29803 (Dec 01, 2006 11:07 am) Perhaps the Kia Rondo is better for some of you. If it is, that is terrific: I suggest you go sing its praise in Kia's forum. If you want to compare it to the M5, then compare it, but I'm sure others, like me, are not interested in reading numerous posts from Rondo owners in a forum for the Mazda5.
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Replying to: edf4 (Dec 01, 2006 7:57 pm) If the host does not want the Rondo discussed except in a direct comparison with the Mazda, he should make that clear.
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Replying to: dakota29803 (Dec 01, 2006 11:05 am) When I test drove a Mazda 5, my son noted no arm rest for the front passenger and it REALLY bugged him. I did not like that neither of the middle seats had arm rests on the doors. Little things, but if you are going to own a vehicle for a while, little things can add up. |
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I assume we have some potential chat attendees here in this discussion!  Be sure to mark your calendar and come tonext Wednesday's chat with the CEO of Kia. Learn more about it here... http://www.edmunds.com/townhall/chat/kiachat12062006.html These guest chats are always interesting. It's your chance to ask the questions you always wanted to! |
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Replying to: dakota29803 (Dec 02, 2006 6:13 am) |
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Replying to: edf4 (Dec 01, 2006 7:57 pm) Perhaps the Kia Rondo is better for some of you. If it is, that is terrific: I suggest you go sing its praise in Kia's forum. If you want to compare it to the M5, then compare it, but I'm sure others, like me, are not interested in reading numerous posts from Rondo owners in a forum for the Mazda5." A few comments: 1. This is one of the only two currently listed forums for the Rondo (the other is as a "future vehicle"). 2. The Rondo was officially North American premiered on Thursday, i.e. 2 days ago. No info on the Kia website was available until that day. 3. There's been a flood of new info in the past few days about the Rondo, and maybe I missed something, but perhaps no new info on the 5 in the past few days. 4. So for those of us interested in comparing the 2 vehicles (which I am), there has been the chance to spread a great deal of more info about one of them, to hopefully make a more informed comparison. So I think that's why the new posts are Rondo dominated. 5. In my mind, the true comparison between the 2 vehicles will not be possible but for a couple of months, because, IIUC, only the 5 passenger Rondo is available right now. 6. I truly hope Mazda sees this as competition and does the following: A. Adds stability control and side curtain airbags as standard. (wouldn't mind TPMS either) B. Returns to their 2006 bumper-to-bumper warranty, with the new FMC standard for longer powertrain warranty. C. Offers a V6 with at least 5 speed auto transmission. (I'd probably take the old 1.8 V6 from the MX3, but there's probably something even easier to fit in there) All of these are available on the Kia. 7. With respect to your particular comment: I'm sure others, like me, are not interested in reading numerous posts from Rondo owners in a forum for the Mazda5, I'm not really surprised to find information on a Kia Rondo in a forum entitled "Mazda 5 vs. Kia Rondo". If I was really not interested in reading about the Kia Rondo, I don't think I would be reading posts in a forum entitled "Mazda 5 vs. Kia Rondo". |
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I for one, like this thread. As an owner of a large minivan, and having been driven them for the past 10 years or so, I am beginning to think that they are somewhat of an overkill for what I need. I have two girls, 10 and 6. Most of the time, we don't use the 3rd row seat, and even worse, we opt to use our 2nd car (Honda Civic) to conserve fuel...  I am seriously considering either 5 or Rondo. I would have purchased 5 earlier this year if it wasn't for the fact that they missed some serious features on that van. Those include: - Not so impressive fuel consumption. Considering that it uses smaller 4 banger and a lighter body, this number should be a lot better. Mazda never has been good at producing thrifty cars IMO. - Performance at full load. Both of these could be partially addressed if they introduce 5 speed auto. - Lack of arm rests at key places... Such a simple fix that they continue to ignore in 2007 models... Sigh... - 17" tires! Personally I would have preferred slightly less performance oriented tires on their GT model. Since I live in Toronto region, I need winter tires as well. I still dont know if it can use 15 rims for winter tires - no one can confirm if this is possible.  5 has many things going for it. Mazda, fix the above and I will seriously consider buying 5. Until then, 5 is off my list. Then here comes Rondo. Wow. It immediately addresses my engine/transmission/tire related complaints. More power and more fuel economical. Even a small V6 option. Some problems with Rondo for me: - I like sliding doors. I never have to worry about my kids crushing my door/next car when parked. - I like the gap between the two seats in the second row. My kids are young enough that they can easily pass through to 3rd row using this space. No need to tumble 2nd row seats when we have more than 4 people. - My kids like the minivan feel inside inc. captain seats on the 2nd row. 5 fells more minivanish than Rondo from 2nd/3rd row views. At this point, I have a slight preference on Rondo over 5. Heck, I may even opt for the fully equiped v6 version, which is still more economical than full size minivan and a good deal cheaper. This is all on paper. I need to check in person, my dealer tells me one is arriving in few days. I'm also curious to see what kind of financial deals they may offer.
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