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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo

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Rondo and Mazda 5 sales for April 2008 - USA by conwelpic
May 01, 2008 (4:46 pm)
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Rondo: 2,583 vs 1,183 for 2007 a 118.3% increase
Mazda 5: 2,011 vs 1,214 for 2007 a 65.7%
 
as I said before this segment of the market is really doing well
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Re: Pics of seven in the Rondo [coolmazda5] by bobw3
May 02, 2008 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Apr 27, 2008 4:41 am)

Considering there's still a gap between the top of the rear tire the fender, I'd say the suspension is really good if this car is full of 7 adults. I've seen a lot of bigger vehicles looking really low in the back when fully loaded. Plus the ground clearance on the Mazda 5 or Rondo isn't much different than a full size minivan.
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Re: Pics of seven in the Rondo [bobw3] by coolmazda5
May 02, 2008 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (May 02, 2008 9:16 am)

A gap? I see a fender shadow over the tire, not a gap (unless the rear tires are a very low profile, irregular ones).
 
Let me repost the MotorTrend review extract I was referring to earlier:

Although it's adept at hauling a variety of gear, the Kia is less proficient at transporting a full load of adults: "We drove over to a restaurant with seven passengers, and the engine and suspension felt tapped out-it's clearly not made for adult passengers all of the time."

  
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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_0804_2007_kia_rondo_update/
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Re: Pics of seven in the Rondo [coolmazda5] by bobw3
May 03, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (May 02, 2008 10:18 am)

But I've seen fully loaded bigger cars where part of the rim was covered by the fender, and that's no where near the case for the Rondo. I've been to Europe many times and have seen fully loaded cars zipping down the road at 100mph, so I think it just that most Americans have an incorrect perception of the amount of power required. American may like big cars, engines, etc., but they're not necessary.
 
Plus I don't know anyone carrying 7 big adults all the time looking at buying a Rondo, so let's be realistic. With the average family consisting of 4 people, 2 adults and 2 kids, the Rondo or Mazda5 are plenty big.
 
And for those obese families with obese kids, maybe if they drove around in a Rondo or Mazda5 they might have more incentive to lose some weight
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Re: Pics of seven in the Rondo [bobw3] by coolmazda5
May 03, 2008 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (May 03, 2008 1:16 pm)


 
a)
These pics are from Hungary and, contrary to some other European countries, there is a highway speed limit there, so 100mph is not allowed in all of "Europe"
 
b)
My wife is from Germany, and there you see no speed limit in some autobahns (not all of them). Regardless you don't see Mazda5s, Citroen Picassos, Opel Zafiras and VW Tourans at 100+mph when fully loaded
 
c)
If you look at the pic showing the 3rd row passengers, regardless of what Country the guy to the right hails from, he's big. The rest don't seem though, but regardless, the point is: it is a 7 seater on a compact car designed suspension (with mods like the Mazda5, but still)
 
d)
Yes, I don't recommend a Mazda5 or a Rondo for a family of 5 either. For 5+ a big minivan is the car to go, but that is besides the point discussed here, I still believe the MotorTrend review is accurate
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Sales for Canada for April 2008 by conwelpic
May 05, 2008 (4:50 pm)
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Mazda 5 - 1735 vs 1435 for April 2007
Rondo - 1039 (a all time monthly record) vs 595 for April 2007
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huh??? by jpiluke
May 08, 2008 (8:28 am)
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Ok, I have issue with this, and I have to say something,,
 
A gap? I see a fender shadow over the tire, not a gap (unless the rear tires are a very low profile, irregular ones).
  
I'm not aware of many vehicles that can handle 7 adults. Heck, most of the vehicles today can barley handle 4 adults. Case and point, my 2002 Cavalier 4dr, 4 adults (none of us over 150lbs) and the car is bottoming out. I know, this is a car, not a CUV, or SUV or whatever the heck you want to call it. The wife and I were very interested in the Sportage, but then happened upon the Rondo in the lot. We will be taking it out for a rip today. If any of you are old enough to remember, there once was a wagon (as in Station wagon) that had a back seat that folded up out of the floor. With 4 adults, one child in a car seat and 3 of us kids (5, 7 and 8) in the back, that old wagon was bottoming out ever chance it got. If your planing on hauling 7 adults around all the time, get a tractor trailer. It's almost as bad as the reviews I read about how this is an inadequate vehicle, because it doesn't accelerate like a sports car, or it doesn't handle like a sports car. If you want that, then buy it, otherwise,,,,,,,,,,,
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Re: huh??? [jpiluke] by coolmazda5
May 09, 2008 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: jpiluke (May 08, 2008 8:28 am)

Is your rant over?? If you read all the posts I'm replying to the whole story, not just one post. With regards to cargo and seating this is already a very long thread, so I would suggest you to read the overall discussion before ranting . Nobody is contradicting your comments, as a matter of fact that what we are trying to get to, live a little
 
Oh, and I don't want to buy a Rondo, I already have 2 Mazda5s, that is good enough for me
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mazda 5, tall people by sagis9
May 09, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (May 09, 2008 8:36 am)

I'm 6'4 , and i found the mazda 5 unusable. I tried to sit in all of the seats, and found them all to be next to impossible. This was not the case with the Rondo.
Guess this limits my choice
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Re: mazda 5, tall people [sagis9] by coolmazda5
May 09, 2008 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: sagis9 (May 09, 2008 9:03 am)

Well, the Mazda5 is still usable, but you are too tall for it
 
I doubt the Rondo 3rd row fits you well but I also doubt you will ever ride in that row anyway
 
But, in all seriousness, I feel your pain, I'm close to 6' and a couple of extra inches of legroom for the driver's seat would have helped, but I'm used to it now. I've also known of a 6'3" owner who is just fine with it. It depends on how people are used to drive or maybe, how long their legs are (i.e. tall people, but short legs?) LOL

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