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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo

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Reverse beauty contest by medicineman
Apr 26, 2008 (12:49 am)
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Lookee what I found during my Internet travels, a poll entitled, Which is uglier, the Kia Rondo or the Mazda 5? Unfortunately, the poll is now closed, so all of us forum members can't flood the poll with our fair and balanced picks.
 
Here are the results:
 
Which is uglier?
  • 34% (14) Kia Rondo
  • 24% (10) Mazda 5
  • 9% (4) Both are ugly
  • 26% (11) Neither is ugly
  • 4% (2) Looks are secondary/irrelevant when I evaluate a vehicle
    Total: 41 votes
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    Re: Reverse beauty contest [medicineman] by irismg
    Apr 26, 2008 (6:58 am)
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    Replying to: medicineman (Apr 26, 2008 12:49 am)

    Whom did they ask? Teenagers? Or men?
    #361 of 806
    Re: Reverse beauty contest [irismg] by coolmazda5
    Apr 27, 2008 (4:33 am)
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    Replying to: irismg (Apr 26, 2008 6:58 am)

    Or women? Or martians? Or owners? 41 people is a very small sample anyway...
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    Re: Pics of seven in the Rondo [medicineman] by coolmazda5
    Apr 27, 2008 (4:41 am)
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    Replying to: medicineman (Apr 26, 2008 12:25 am)

    Finally
     
    One article discussed earlier here the "smaller car" suspension issues with a full load of adults (focused on Rondo, but it may be the same case for the Mazda5, except one less adult) so I believe this pic below a good example. Now imagine driving through potholes and speed bumps
     
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    Rondo and Mazda 5 sales for April 2008 - USA by conwelpic
    May 01, 2008 (4:46 pm)
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    Rondo: 2,583 vs 1,183 for 2007 a 118.3% increase
    Mazda 5: 2,011 vs 1,214 for 2007 a 65.7%
     
    as I said before this segment of the market is really doing well
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    Re: Pics of seven in the Rondo [coolmazda5] by bobw3
    May 02, 2008 (9:16 am)
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    Replying to: coolmazda5 (Apr 27, 2008 4:41 am)

    Considering there's still a gap between the top of the rear tire the fender, I'd say the suspension is really good if this car is full of 7 adults. I've seen a lot of bigger vehicles looking really low in the back when fully loaded. Plus the ground clearance on the Mazda 5 or Rondo isn't much different than a full size minivan.
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    Re: Pics of seven in the Rondo [bobw3] by coolmazda5
    May 02, 2008 (10:18 am)
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    Replying to: bobw3 (May 02, 2008 9:16 am)

    A gap? I see a fender shadow over the tire, not a gap (unless the rear tires are a very low profile, irregular ones).
     
    Let me repost the MotorTrend review extract I was referring to earlier:

    Although it's adept at hauling a variety of gear, the Kia is less proficient at transporting a full load of adults: "We drove over to a restaurant with seven passengers, and the engine and suspension felt tapped out-it's clearly not made for adult passengers all of the time."

      
    Source:
    http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_0804_2007_kia_rondo_update/
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    Re: Pics of seven in the Rondo [coolmazda5] by bobw3
    May 03, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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    Replying to: coolmazda5 (May 02, 2008 10:18 am)

    But I've seen fully loaded bigger cars where part of the rim was covered by the fender, and that's no where near the case for the Rondo. I've been to Europe many times and have seen fully loaded cars zipping down the road at 100mph, so I think it just that most Americans have an incorrect perception of the amount of power required. American may like big cars, engines, etc., but they're not necessary.
     
    Plus I don't know anyone carrying 7 big adults all the time looking at buying a Rondo, so let's be realistic. With the average family consisting of 4 people, 2 adults and 2 kids, the Rondo or Mazda5 are plenty big.
     
    And for those obese families with obese kids, maybe if they drove around in a Rondo or Mazda5 they might have more incentive to lose some weight
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    Re: Pics of seven in the Rondo [bobw3] by coolmazda5
    May 03, 2008 (6:44 pm)
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    Replying to: bobw3 (May 03, 2008 1:16 pm)


     
    a)
    These pics are from Hungary and, contrary to some other European countries, there is a highway speed limit there, so 100mph is not allowed in all of "Europe"
     
    b)
    My wife is from Germany, and there you see no speed limit in some autobahns (not all of them). Regardless you don't see Mazda5s, Citroen Picassos, Opel Zafiras and VW Tourans at 100+mph when fully loaded
     
    c)
    If you look at the pic showing the 3rd row passengers, regardless of what Country the guy to the right hails from, he's big. The rest don't seem though, but regardless, the point is: it is a 7 seater on a compact car designed suspension (with mods like the Mazda5, but still)
     
    d)
    Yes, I don't recommend a Mazda5 or a Rondo for a family of 5 either. For 5+ a big minivan is the car to go, but that is besides the point discussed here, I still believe the MotorTrend review is accurate
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    Sales for Canada for April 2008 by conwelpic
    May 05, 2008 (4:50 pm)
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    Mazda 5 - 1735 vs 1435 for April 2007
    Rondo - 1039 (a all time monthly record) vs 595 for April 2007

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