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#341 of 803 from Consumer Reports Auto Issue - April 2008 by conwelpic Mar 13, 2008 (7:16 am)
in their section under Best & Worst, they mentioned: "Most overlooked cars - These aren't top sellers, but all are good values and perform well" listed the Mazda 5 and Kia Rondo   In the Vehicle Profiles section, they stated:   "Mazda 5 - The Mazda 5 has the utility of a small minivan yet is maneuverable, economical and affordable. Based on the Mazda 3, it delivers responsive handling, a comfortable ride, and a relatively quiet interior, although road noise is pronounced. Fuel economy was a decent 23 mpg (US) overall. The four-cylinder engine provides adequate performance but lacks reserve power when carrying full loads or climbing hills. A five-speed automatic is new for 2008. Visibility and acess are excellent. It has flexible seating for four passengers and their luggage, or it can accommodate six with minimal cargo. Reliability has been average"   "Kia Rondo - The Rondo offers an impressive amount of room for its compact size. With seating for up to seven, it has minivanlike utility with the dimensions of a small car. It competes mainly with the six-passenger Mazda 5. Built on the same platform as the Kia Optima, the Rondo also shares its 2.4 liter, four-cylinder engine, as well as the optional 2.7 liter V6. Fit and finish is very good, and access is very easy. The ride is comfortable and quiet, and the powertrain is refined. Handling is not particularly agile. Stability control and curtain air bags are standard"   drive - 2008 Rondo EX 2.4L location - Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada Replies to this message: coolmazda5 (Mar 13, 2008 7:54 am) mrbwa1 (Mar 13, 2008 1:21 pm) coolmazda5 (Mar 13, 2008 4:30 pm)
#342 of 803 Re: from Consumer Reports Auto Issue - April 2008 [conwelpic] by coolmazda5 Mar 13, 2008 (7:54 am)
Replying to: conwelpic (Mar 13, 2008 7:16 am) Good info. I just wander about the Mazda5 "average" reliability, what is it based on? Both my cars have been really good, not average. In other mazda5 forums I've read complaints like the back tires uneven use (which is fixed with regular balancing IMO), but nothing scary really (i.w. like Lemons or engines blowing away). The only issues on mine have been: one of the liftgate struts came defective, changed quickly under warranty, and the 2005 exhaust recall on my 06, which actually did not affect Manual Tranny cars, yet it was recalled just to be sure. I got a rental for free and $500 dollars for the inconvenience during the time it was in the shop.   Any reliability stories with the Rondo? Lemons, Issues?   I'll follow conwelpic. This forum is very poor in some areas, you cannot even have a signature: drives - 2006 and 2008 Mazda5 5-speed manual transmission, US Replies to this message: mrbwa1 (Mar 13, 2008 1:21 pm) coolmazda5 (Mar 13, 2008 4:30 pm)
#343 of 803 poor forum design by conwelpic Mar 13, 2008 (8:32 am)
I'll follow conwelpic. This forum is very poor in some areas, you cannot even have a signature:   your right coolmazda5, I was trying to do that so I don't have to repeat it with each entry, maybe the designers of this forum will take a hint and get up to date with most of the other forums. Can you even put in a avatar?   Drive - 2008 Rondo EX 2.4L Location - Prince Edward Country, Ontario, Canada
#344 of 803 Re: from Consumer Reports Auto Issue - April 2008 [coolmazda5] by mrbwa1 Mar 13, 2008 (1:21 pm)
Replying to: coolmazda5 (Mar 13, 2008 7:54 am) My understanding is that the Mazda5's "average" reliability is mainly due to the 2006 recall. For those who don't know, Mazda had to "recall" the 2006 Mazda5s with the automatic because someone drove one in the manu-matic mode at highway speeds in 2nd gear. Apparently, this heated up the Catalytic converter and could potentially be an issue. Unfortunately, Mazda had to pull all the 5s off the road until a fix was found. I imagine that wan't too fun for those who went through it, but not really a major issue like wheels falling off or something. Replies to this message: coolmazda5 (Mar 13, 2008 4:30 pm)
#345 of 803 Re: from Consumer Reports Auto Issue - April 2008 [mrbwa1] by coolmazda5 Mar 13, 2008 (4:30 pm)
Replying to: mrbwa1 (Mar 13, 2008 1:21 pm) Got it mrbwa1. Yes, I was one of the recalled ones but Mazda did a good job IMO. I was surprised about the "average" qualification as I owned a Honda, a Chevy, tons of Fords, VWs, Nissan and these 2 Mazdas so far so good (knocking on wood)!   It is not a daily thing that you buy the same car again based on the 1st one reliability, versatility and satisfaction...   drives - 2006 and 2008 Mazda5 5-speed manual transmission, US   BTW, something related to this topic:   Mazda Claims Top Spot in Recent Reliability Survey. Feb 19, 2008   Warranty DIRECT ‘Reliability League Table’ 2007 TOP 10 RESULTS   Manufacturer Incidence Rate %*   1 Mazda 8.04 2 Honda 8.90 3 Toyota 15.78 4 Mitsubishi 17.04 5 Kia 17.39 6 Subaru 18.46 7 Nissan 18.86 8 Lexus 20.05 9 Mini 21.90 10 Citroen 25.98   * Number of mechanical failures reported by policy holders for every 100 vehicles aged between three and nine years old.   Source: Mazda USA Web Site. Inside Mazda (Press Release)
#346 of 803 Some versatility screenshots from Mazda Sweden (Web Site) by coolmazda5 Mar 14, 2008 (9:29 am)
http://www.carspace.com/coolmazda5/Albums/mazda5%20cargo/mazda5_parking_slide_do- ors_versatility.jpg/photo/v./photo.jpg   http://www.carspace.com/coolmazda5/Albums/mazda5%20cargo/mazda5_4_kids_versatili- ty.jpg Replies to this message: bobw3 (Mar 14, 2008 9:55 am) coolmazda5 (Mar 14, 2008 11:05 am) bobw3 (Mar 14, 2008 11:54 am)
#347 of 803 Re: Some versatility screenshots from Mazda Sweden (Web Site) [coolmazda5] by bobw3 Mar 14, 2008 (9:55 am)
Replying to: coolmazda5 (Mar 14, 2008 9:29 am) Can you give us the original web link. Replies to this message: coolmazda5 (Mar 14, 2008 11:05 am) bobw3 (Mar 14, 2008 11:54 am)
#348 of 803 Re: Some versatility screenshots from Mazda Sweden (Web Site) [bobw3] by coolmazda5 Mar 14, 2008 (11:05 am)
Replying to: bobw3 (Mar 14, 2008 9:55 am) www.mazda.se, Good luck with your Swedish Replies to this message: bobw3 (Mar 14, 2008 11:54 am)
#349 of 803 Re: Some versatility screenshots from Mazda Sweden (Web Site) [coolmazda5] by bobw3 Mar 14, 2008 (11:54 am)
Replying to: coolmazda5 (Mar 14, 2008 11:05 am) Actually I was there but when I clicked on "galleria" I only see one photo.
#350 of 803 Things to consider for a full house of adult passengers by coolmazda5 Mar 20, 2008 (10:34 am)
With regards to capacity, we love the fact that we can fit more souls than a sedan or a wagon (6 Mazda5 or 5-7 Rondo), but if people are considering to fully carry adults on these type of cars then take a look to the report from Motor Trend below. Reality is that the car platforms are still of a smaller car (even with extra weight mods), not a full-size people hauler...   Although it's adept at hauling a variety of gear, the Kia is less proficient at transporting a full load of adults: "We drove over to a restaurant with seven passengers, and the engine and suspension felt tapped out-it's clearly not made for adult passengers all of the time."   And this also goes for the Mazda5 for sure, except that in NA it is only 6 passengers load...   Source: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_0804_2007_kia_rondo_update/

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