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Zoom Zoom by getsomezoom
Mar 12, 2008 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Mar 08, 2008 6:24 am)

We just bought our 5 Saturday and have been enjoying it. Since we're upgrading/downgrading from a Suburban just about any vehicle would be tighter but we've been happy with the results. We've got a total of 350 miles on it and our first tank of gas with mixed highway and city driving was ~26.5MPG. We're looking forward to getting it broken in and I'll do some additional tweaking to see if we can get around 30MPG on the highway. When I get a few more adults or large children around I'll try to snap some pics for everyone to see how it holds up with larger individuals in the back but with our entire family it seems to work great. We have 2 adults (and I am biggie sized) and 4 kids...two of which are in their tween, teen years and the other two are under 8.
 
2008 Mazda 5
5 speed Manual
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from Consumer Reports Auto Issue - April 2008 by conwelpic
Mar 13, 2008 (7:16 am)
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in their section under Best & Worst, they mentioned:
"Most overlooked cars - These aren't top sellers, but all are good values and perform well" listed the Mazda 5 and Kia Rondo
 
In the Vehicle Profiles section, they stated:
 
"Mazda 5 - The Mazda 5 has the utility of a small minivan yet is maneuverable, economical and affordable. Based on the Mazda 3, it delivers responsive handling, a comfortable ride, and a relatively quiet interior, although road noise is pronounced. Fuel economy was a decent 23 mpg (US) overall. The four-cylinder engine provides adequate performance but lacks reserve power when carrying full loads or climbing hills. A five-speed automatic is new for 2008. Visibility and acess are excellent. It has flexible seating for four passengers and their luggage, or it can accommodate six with minimal cargo. Reliability has been average"
 
"Kia Rondo - The Rondo offers an impressive amount of room for its compact size. With seating for up to seven, it has minivanlike utility with the dimensions of a small car. It competes mainly with the six-passenger Mazda 5. Built on the same platform as the Kia Optima, the Rondo also shares its 2.4 liter, four-cylinder engine, as well as the optional 2.7 liter V6. Fit and finish is very good, and access is very easy. The ride is comfortable and quiet, and the powertrain is refined. Handling is not particularly agile. Stability control and curtain air bags are standard"
 
drive - 2008 Rondo EX 2.4L
location - Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
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Re: from Consumer Reports Auto Issue - April 2008 [conwelpic] by coolmazda5
Mar 13, 2008 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Mar 13, 2008 7:16 am)

Good info. I just wander about the Mazda5 "average" reliability, what is it based on? Both my cars have been really good, not average. In other mazda5 forums I've read complaints like the back tires uneven use (which is fixed with regular balancing IMO), but nothing scary really (i.w. like Lemons or engines blowing away). The only issues on mine have been: one of the liftgate struts came defective, changed quickly under warranty, and the 2005 exhaust recall on my 06, which actually did not affect Manual Tranny cars, yet it was recalled just to be sure. I got a rental for free and $500 dollars for the inconvenience during the time it was in the shop.
 
Any reliability stories with the Rondo? Lemons, Issues?
 
I'll follow conwelpic. This forum is very poor in some areas, you cannot even have a signature:

drives - 2006 and 2008 Mazda5 5-speed manual transmission, US
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poor forum design by conwelpic
Mar 13, 2008 (8:32 am)
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I'll follow conwelpic. This forum is very poor in some areas, you cannot even have a signature:
 
your right coolmazda5, I was trying to do that so I don't have to repeat it with each entry, maybe the designers of this forum will take a hint and get up to date with most of the other forums. Can you even put in a avatar?
 
Drive - 2008 Rondo EX 2.4L
Location - Prince Edward Country, Ontario, Canada
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Re: from Consumer Reports Auto Issue - April 2008 [coolmazda5] by mrbwa1
Mar 13, 2008 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Mar 13, 2008 7:54 am)

My understanding is that the Mazda5's "average" reliability is mainly due to the 2006 recall. For those who don't know, Mazda had to "recall" the 2006 Mazda5s with the automatic because someone drove one in the manu-matic mode at highway speeds in 2nd gear. Apparently, this heated up the Catalytic converter and could potentially be an issue. Unfortunately, Mazda had to pull all the 5s off the road until a fix was found. I imagine that wan't too fun for those who went through it, but not really a major issue like wheels falling off or something.
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Re: from Consumer Reports Auto Issue - April 2008 [mrbwa1] by coolmazda5
Mar 13, 2008 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: mrbwa1 (Mar 13, 2008 1:21 pm)

Got it mrbwa1. Yes, I was one of the recalled ones but Mazda did a good job IMO. I was surprised about the "average" qualification as I owned a Honda, a Chevy, tons of Fords, VWs, Nissan and these 2 Mazdas so far so good (knocking on wood)!
 
It is not a daily thing that you buy the same car again based on the 1st one reliability, versatility and satisfaction...
 
drives - 2006 and 2008 Mazda5 5-speed manual transmission, US
 
BTW, something related to this topic:
 
Mazda Claims Top Spot in Recent Reliability Survey. Feb 19, 2008
 
Warranty DIRECT ‘Reliability League Table’ 2007 TOP 10 RESULTS
 
Manufacturer Incidence Rate %*
 
1 Mazda 8.04
2 Honda 8.90
3 Toyota 15.78
4 Mitsubishi 17.04
5 Kia 17.39
6 Subaru 18.46
7 Nissan 18.86
8 Lexus 20.05
9 Mini 21.90
10 Citroen 25.98
 
* Number of mechanical failures reported by policy holders for every 100 vehicles aged between three and nine years old.
 
Source: Mazda USA Web Site. Inside Mazda (Press Release)
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Some versatility screenshots from Mazda Sweden (Web Site) by coolmazda5
Mar 14, 2008 (9:29 am)
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http://www.carspace.com/coolmazda5/Albums/mazda5%20cargo/mazda5_parking_slide_do- ors_versatility.jpg/photo/v./photo.jpg
 
http://www.carspace.com/coolmazda5/Albums/mazda5%20cargo/mazda5_4_kids_versatili- ty.jpg
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Re: Some versatility screenshots from Mazda Sweden (Web Site) [coolmazda5] by bobw3
Mar 14, 2008 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Mar 14, 2008 9:29 am)

Can you give us the original web link.
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Re: Some versatility screenshots from Mazda Sweden (Web Site) [bobw3] by coolmazda5
Mar 14, 2008 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Mar 14, 2008 9:55 am)

www.mazda.se, Good luck with your Swedish
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Re: Some versatility screenshots from Mazda Sweden (Web Site) [coolmazda5] by bobw3
Mar 14, 2008 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Mar 14, 2008 11:05 am)

Actually I was there but when I clicked on "galleria" I only see one photo.

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