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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo

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Re: for you Mazda 5 owners [conwelpic] by coolmazda5
Feb 20, 2008 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Feb 20, 2008 7:06 am)

Yay!
 
It is funny, but if you compare it to any minivan (which I think they have kept the term mini just to distract the consumer) it wins hands-down, except in weight and space
 
Yeah, in the US has also won the "A Lowest True Cost To Own" vehicle for January 2008. Again, compared to "minivans" of course this one costs peanuts, especially gas . Also regular services are very inexpensive compared to others
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsPress&veh- - icleCode=MZ5
 
And talking about fuel:
 
IntelliChoice Excellent Value and Best in Class Award Winner
 
    * Lowest Fuel Costs in Class
    * Lowest Operating Costs in Class
    * Lowest Ownership Costs in Class
 
— IntelliChoice.com 02.2008
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That's nice...... by garnermike
Feb 20, 2008 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Feb 20, 2008 7:58 am)

The Rondo continues to be categorized very different ways by awards programs, ratings system, federal agencies, and by consumers. Wagon? Minivan? SUV? Crossover (whatever that is)?
 
Having owned/driven it now since October, I've been asked many times "what exactly is a Rondo?" It is asked either by friends who've driven in it and are quite impressed (by its cargo room, driving characteristics, 7 seats, and good mpg) or by friends and family from afar who want to know about my new car.
 
My own tailored answer is that it's essentially a "microvan." Smaller than all other minivans, FWD, 5-7 seating, lots of hauling room, car-like drive. That's how I view it in my mind. It is only un-minivan like in not having an AWD option nor sliding side doors.
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Re: That's nice...... [garnermike] by coolmazda5
Feb 20, 2008 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: garnermike (Feb 20, 2008 8:32 am)

It is interesting that you like to name it like that. In general owners want to step away from the minivan category because is not the case i.e. if we review and try to match minivian specifications, but the dreaded (yet extremely useful) sliding door does not help the case in the case of the Mazda5
 
If we were in Europe or Asia they would have a proper, more realistic classification:
- Compact MPV (Multi Purpose Vehicle)
- MAV (Multi Activity Vehicle)
- Space Wagon
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_MPV
 
Oh well it will take time I guess (if the Mazda5 and Rondo models don't disappear first in favor of a small SUV or a crossover XX whatever)
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2008 Rondo earns "Best Value" award by radar1
Feb 21, 2008 (6:11 am)
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Just saw this report.
 
IRVINE, Calif., Feb. 20 /PRNewswire/ -- The 2008 Kia Rondo was named a "Best Value" by Parents Magazine and Edmunds.com in their annual list of Best Family Cars. Parents cited the optional third row, allowing seating for seven, as just one of the reasons the Rondo is a good choice for families.
The full report can be found here;
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/kia-rondo-named-to-parents-magazine-and-- edmundscom-best-family,286202.shtml
 
John
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Re: 2008 Rondo earns "Best Value" award [radar1] by coolmazda5
Feb 21, 2008 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: radar1 (Feb 21, 2008 6:11 am)

Here you go, the whole list. My wife is subscribed to this magazine, I'm sure they can do a better job on the site navigation though :
http://www.parents.com/parents/slideshow/slideShow.jsp?slideid=/templatedata/par- - - ents/slideshow/data/1202324985924.xml&page=1
 
Added:
Also this should mean that the 2008 has been finally launched in the US I believe. Any new stuff compared to the 2007?
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February 2008 Sales - USA by conwelpic
Mar 03, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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Mazda 5: 2021 units a 29.1% increase over sales of Feb '07 of 1565 units
 
Rondo sales: 3616 units
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Re: February 2008 Sales - USA [conwelpic] by coolmazda5
Mar 03, 2008 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Mar 03, 2008 3:00 pm)

Thanks. Some extra info on the Mazda5 for the US and Canada, from the press release:
 

The MAZDA5 multi-activity vehicle, which has been freshened for 2008, sold 2,021 units, a 29.1 percent increase, and the best month for the vehicle since March, 2006
 
Mazda Canada, Inc. reported February sales of 5,810 units, up 12.4 percent, and their best-ever February. Additionally, Mazda Canada reported best-ever February sales for MAZDA5, MX-5 and B-Series. Year-to-date, MCI reports 10,542 vehicles sold, up 9.3 percent.
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Re: '08 Rondo EX 5-seater, CDN [coolmazda5] by timtlm
Mar 05, 2008 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Feb 08, 2008 4:40 pm)

Haven't checked out this thread in a while, and thought I would post my opinion on some of the topics discussed. I am mid 20's with my first kid. The reasons why I went with the Rondo over the M5.
1. I felt that the rondo had more room overall (seating and cargo), although this has been hard to prove/disprove because the cargo room calculations on vehicles must have been different methods. If you've looked at both, I would be certain that most people would side with the Rondo on space.
2. More seating options (this has already been discussed in great detail).
3. I liked the look better than the M5, A lot of this has to do with the sliding doors. I think the M5 looks like a "microvan" because of these. The "sporty" look and the "microvan" oxymoron appearance does not work for me. I describe the Rondo as a tall station wagon or hatcback. However, I agree that the different colors make a huge difference in the Rondo's appearance. I have black, but would have also accepted urban gray. I don't like the lighter colors on the Rondo because how the black trim/grill contrasts with the color. The beige shown in the edmunds review doesn't do the black or gray Rondos justice. (This is my opinion, so no offense other Rondo owners).
4. Price: cheaper than the used M5 that Kia had on the lot
5. The drive was great. Honestly didn't notice much difference between the M5, but I'll take your word and most reviewers words for it that the M5 handles better. But, Rondo had ESC and ABS standard, which resulted in a safer feel.
 
My only hang-up was that it was a Kia. I am a previous Mazda owner (87 323 -- Great reliable car) and a firm believer in Japanese cars. But the waranty and the more recent improvements in reliablility made me feel comfortable.
 
Also, please see my pic showing cargo room. This is a standard size Range/Oven new in the box that slid easily into the Rondo with the back seats down. I know I was impressed. I wonder if the M5 can do the same.
 

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Re: '08 Rondo EX 5-seater, CDN [timtlm] by coolmazda5
Mar 05, 2008 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: timtlm (Mar 05, 2008 7:52 am)

Good pic, impressive indeed. I'm not sure if I can answer to your question, do you have the actual box size by any chance?
 
The Mazda5 hatch opening is around: 34" (86.36cm) Height, 40" (101.6cm) Width. Your box looks tall so that may be an issue.
 
Any picture with all the occupants (5 or 7 seater)? Something like this?

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