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#313 of 806 Re: Snap Judgements [coolmazda5] by medicineman Feb 10, 2008 (3:14 pm)
Replying to: coolmazda5 (Feb 10, 2008 5:05 am) CM5, the storm door in the carton box is too thin so it does not represent a full cargo capacity. Plus, we need to see it overhanging the backend of the vehicle so we can fully appreciate what your vehicle can really do.   My real opinion about the way the Rondo looks has changed with time. When I first got it, I loved the way it looked. Then, I thought it was bland. Now, I've read a number of comments and reviews about how the Rondo looks quite smart from certain angles, but ungainly from other angles. I tend to agree with that.   Mrbwa1 was very perceptive (and I'm only saying that because I see it the same way) when he said that the Rondo "looks VERY different depending on the trim level and paint color." I love the way my Rondo EX looks in "urban grey." The Rondo (to my eyes) seems to suffer in other colours.   As for the M5's looks, I don't really get why some people think that it's hot. To me, it looks like a door-stop wedge. Its "cool" appears more tacked on than inherent (a poseur). But I do agree that the M5's looks do not polarize opinions as much as the Rondo's looks do. With the Rondo, it dares to be different (depending on one's opinion, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's purty).   Conwelpic also made a good point about your pic of the M5 in a tight parking space. In actual practice, would you (or more importantly, your wife) park in that narrow of a parking spot, especially if you have difficulty opening the passenger and driver doors? I know you have the option of climbing through to the rear and exiting through the sliding doors, which is more of a hassle than just opening your own door, so my first instinct and preference would be to park where I wouldn't have to do that.   As for me, I really haven't had any issues with parking and unloading/loading the Rondo in the urban nightmare that I live in. Hypothetically, it would seem that I would have all kinds of trouble opening doors in those tight mall parking lots, but in practice, it hasn't been that big of a deal. If it were, I would be certainly bitchin' about it. I guess it's because I, and most people out there, have never owned a vehicle with sliding doors before, so we're used to making due with what we've got. If I had sliding doors, I probably would decide that I couldn't live without it.   Finally, I have been silent about your thesis on who is the typical M5 audience and who is the typical Rondo audience (i.e., post #288). That's not a tacit agreement with your thesis--I just found it too speculative and overreaching to make any concrete comments on it. Nevertheless, when you focused your attention on one aspect of your thesis (the kid-friendly stuff) and made a detailed case, it did sound very compelling.   Anyway, I'm spending way too much time with reading and posting here (I've always been quite self-deprecating about my over-long, self-indulgent posts). Me thinks I'm taking a break. Replies to this message: coolmazda5 (Feb 10, 2008 4:57 pm) viper69 (Feb 10, 2008 8:13 pm)
#314 of 806 Re: Snap Judgements [medicineman] by coolmazda5 Feb 10, 2008 (4:57 pm)
Replying to: medicineman (Feb 10, 2008 3:14 pm) Oh forget it. I'm not reading this anymore. A book on sci-fi is way more interesting. When you get some pics just post them
#315 of 806 Re: Snap Judgements [medicineman] by viper69 Feb 10, 2008 (8:13 pm)
Replying to: medicineman (Feb 10, 2008 3:14 pm) I just want to add my opinion to this matter. I have the mazda5 myself and did look at the rondo as well when shopping. I also like the rondo, but besides the salesman who turned me off looking further in their dealership, I think the sliding door is just a blessing to those who have kids. Specially those who still use a car seat. I don't have to bend and hurt my back putting them in, specially in tight spaces. Take note that my first choice was really a Sedona, short wheel base one, but the MPG really turned me off. I just really like the sliding door on mini vans but did not want to pay more for what I did for my 5. So the 5 really is perfect for me. I have 2 kids, a 3 and a 8 yr old. Wanted extra sits when needed, another reason why I got the 5, but you'll get that from the rondo too.
#316 of 806 Re: Snap Judgements [medicineman] by mrbwa1 Feb 11, 2008 (6:34 pm)
Replying to: medicineman (Feb 09, 2008 11:33 pm) LOL! I must conceed to you wisdom there. Also, I guess my Mazda5 isn't really kid-friendly, as much as it's garage-friendly, and stuck-between-two-land-yacht-sized SUVs-in-compact-parking-spaces-friendly. and as for driving a cartoon, have you ever seen a Toyota ECHO? I drive an '01 and I swear that it was designed by Disney!
#317 of 806 Re: Snap Judgements [medicineman] by sleepwalker Feb 15, 2008 (10:51 am)
Replying to: medicineman (Feb 09, 2008 11:33 pm) medicine man, you hit the perverbial nail on the head!! I'm not sure about the "scare" factor but the Ron-( DOOOOHH ) while having some advantages over our 5, dog-gone it, I would still have to walk up to it and people actually see me getting into it. Maybe they give you a big hat in one of the packages, lol.
#318 of 806 Foot operated parking brake for the Carens/Rondo? by coolmazda5 Feb 16, 2008 (3:35 pm)
I was reading that the 2006+ Carens has a foot operated parking brake, I'm assuming that is the same case for the Rondo here in NA (4 and 6cyl), correct? Just silly observation, I haven't seen those in years! Replies to this message: conwelpic (Feb 16, 2008 5:17 pm) coolmazda5 (Feb 16, 2008 7:09 pm) lostwrench (Feb 18, 2008 8:04 pm) maltb (Feb 18, 2008 12:39 pm) coolmazda5 (Feb 18, 2008 5:28 pm)
#319 of 806 Re: Foot operated parking brake for the Carens/Rondo? [coolmazda5] by conwelpic Feb 16, 2008 (5:17 pm)
Replying to: coolmazda5 (Feb 16, 2008 3:35 pm) that's right, push-on, push-off operation (2008 model). I like it, it frees up space in the centre console area. My previous vehicle, an Oldsmobile had the same thing, except it was a hand lever release (this was how it was released on the 2007 Rondo).   Replies to this message: coolmazda5 (Feb 16, 2008 7:09 pm) lostwrench (Feb 18, 2008 8:04 pm)
#320 of 806 Re: Foot operated parking brake for the Carens/Rondo? [conwelpic] by coolmazda5 Feb 16, 2008 (7:09 pm)
Replying to: conwelpic (Feb 16, 2008 5:17 pm) All right, oh well, interesting. The last (4cyl) car owned at home with a foot parking brake was a 1985 Dart/Aries K, and that was so to keep it a six seater (yes the front seat could fit 3 passengers, even with manual transmission which, by the way, had a very long and curved shifter to get around the seat, weird).   I thought no contemporary Asian designed car would sport one, but at least more console space as you mention. Thanks for the pic!
#321 of 806 IKEA Trip by coolmazda5 Feb 17, 2008 (12:38 pm)
A couple of multipurpose shelves and other stuff. A small/portable stroller (not visible) in between the 2nd row seats "aisle"     Link, in case the image does not come up: http://www.carspace.com/coolmazda5/Albums/mazda5%20cargo/mazda5_ikea_compliance_- - 02.jpg/photo/v./photo.jpg
#322 of 806 Re: Foot operated parking brake for the Carens/Rondo? [coolmazda5] by maltb Feb 18, 2008 (12:39 pm)
Replying to: coolmazda5 (Feb 16, 2008 3:35 pm) Just silly observation, I haven't seen those in years!   Check out a CX-7 or CX-9! Replies to this message: coolmazda5 (Feb 18, 2008 5:28 pm)

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