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Re: US sales for December and YTD [conwelpic] by coolmazda5
Jan 04, 2008 (5:26 am)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Jan 03, 2008 4:45 pm)

Yaaay!!, at least I contributed with one for December . Not bad numbers for zero Mazda5 marketing
 
After the first month driving my 08 I feel even more compelled by the Mazda5 changes made compared to my 06. Some of them are subtle (i.e. new luminescent gauges) but Mazda addressed them very well regardless of the sales number. To me indicates that US remains a key market for them, at least to keep the momentum for their Mazda3 and CX-9 cash cows (i.e. A/C for the 2nd row was added only for the US and Canadian markets).
 
In order to negotiate with the dealer for my 08 I quickly checked the Rondo on the KIA web site and read some related web articles. I found that some things are gone from the Rondo 07 to the Rondo 08, while the 08 Mazda5 was adding more items for almost the same price (auto A/C, 2nd row A/C, electroluminescent gauges, more armrests, black cd console plate, aux input, body colored mirrors for the Sport trim, etc.).
 
In my case, for the 2 Mazda5s final price (new), there is only around 200USD difference. After 2+yrs, not bad at all.
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Re: US sales for December and YTD [coolmazda5] by coolmazda5
Jan 04, 2008 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jan 04, 2008 5:26 am)

I think this just emphasizes my key market point made earlier:
 
Toyota passes Ford as second largest automaker in the U.S.
Mazda grows the most in 2007
 
Big ups to Mazda, which won our coveted Biggest Winner of the Year honor by growing its daily average sales rate 9.8% and selling nearly 300,000 vehicles

 
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/03/by-the-numbers-2007/
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Canadian market by conwelpic
Jan 04, 2008 (3:13 pm)
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the Mazda 5 did very well in Canada. selling 727 units in December vs 621 for the Rondo.
YTD for the Mazda 5 - 11,690 vs 8,694 for 2006
YTD for the Rondo - 7,638 vs 85 for 2006
 
Base price of the 2008 Mazda 5 has increase $800 plus $1100 for 5 spd auto and $1100 for a/c
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US Market MAZDA5 and MAZDA6 Record Best-Ever Sales. Jan 2008 by coolmazda5
Feb 03, 2008 (9:32 am)
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I won't jump into conclusions on which car has faired better based on this number until I see a trend but, to me, this means that if you are still on the market for a compact people mover the facelifted 2008 Mazda5 is worth taking a look at (as there is no advertising for it really).
 
Are there any numbers for the US 2008 Rondo available? It would be interesting to see if it is a market target effect or just a good month car sales in general...
 

MAZDA ACHIEVES BEST JANUARY IN 14 YEARS
Sales up 10.2 Percent; MAZDA5 and MAZDA6 Record Best-Ever January
 
IRVINE, Calif. – Coming off a year in which its sales grew more than 10 percent, Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) today reported its best January since 1994 with sales of 21,212 vehicles for January 2008, accounting for a 10.2 percent increase versus last year.
 
MAZDA6 celebrated its best-ever January with sales of 6,333 units, up 27.0 percent over last year. Not to be outdone, the MAZDA5 multi-activity vehicle, which has been freshened for 2008 and only on the market for a short time, also celebrated its best-ever January with sales of 1,699 units, accounting for a 28.4 percent increase.
 
Mazda CX-9, which was recently named North American Truck of the Year, reported sales of 1,850 units while its sibling, CX-7, recorded 2,555 units sold. January sales were led in volume by MAZDA3, which reported sales of 6,579 units.
 
“After closing 2007 as the fastest-growing major car company in the U.S., we kicked off 2008 signaling our intention for another strong year,” said Jim O’Sullivan, president and CEO, MNAO.

 
http://media.ford.com/mazda/article_display.cfm?article_id=27597&make_id=227
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Re: US Market MAZDA5 and MAZDA6 Record Best-Ever Sales. Jan 2008 [coolmazda by radar1
Feb 03, 2008 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Feb 03, 2008 9:32 am)

Looks like the Rondo did much better than last year, and almost twice as well as the Mazda5 in January. I think this is just the 2007 model; I don't think the 2008 Rondo has hit the showrooms yet.
Rondo 3,226 in Jan 2008 vs 478 in Jan 2007.
SOURCE Kia Motors America
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Re: US Market MAZDA5 and MAZDA6 Record Best-Ever Sales. Jan 2008 [coolmazda by coolmazda5
Feb 03, 2008 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: radar1 (Feb 03, 2008 10:08 am)

2008 Rondo not yet in the showrooms? Oh well, KIA may be working on the 2008.5 model instead then.
 
Thanks for the info. As I said, I won't jump into any conclusions until I see a trend, but it is good to see that the compact people movers did well this month, especially for an SUV dominated market.
 
Oh, and question: When the 07 Rondo was released in the US Market? Is it fair to compare Jan 07 to Jan 08?
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Re: Canadian market by conwelpic
Feb 04, 2008 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Feb 03, 2008 10:20 am)

yet again the Mazda 5 did better in Canada by selling 735 units for January 2008 compared to 663 units for the Rondo. This could be a mixture of '07's and '08's.
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Re: Canadian market [conwelpic] by coolmazda5
Feb 04, 2008 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Feb 04, 2008 4:35 pm)

Thanks for the info, very close. Some Canadian owners have mentioned that about 50% of Mazda5s have been sold in the Quebec area, mainly Montreal (Parlez vous Mazda5? ). Compared to the market size, Compact People Movers seem far more popular in Canada that in the US in my non-expert opinion...
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Re: Canadian market [coolmazda5] by conwelpic
Feb 04, 2008 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Feb 04, 2008 5:44 pm)

I'd would agree with you, its quite a different market to the US, also its true that they do sell a lot of Mazda's in the province of Quebec.
 
Also the Mazda 3 was the 2nd largest selling car in Canada for 2007 with sales of 48,236. Taking into account that the US population is 9.5 times larger than Canada thats equivalent to 458,242 units.
 
The number one seller is the Honda Civic and in 3rd place is the Toyota Corolla.
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [aladdinsane] by sleepwalker
Feb 06, 2008 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: aladdinsane (Nov 13, 2006 5:04 am)

yeah, like he said..rondo. I knew a ronda and she was just about as ugly as the kia. Did you LOOK at the car? To me it looks like a toon. Nicely equiped toon. I don't think the Kia will hold its value as well as the "5" which is something that you need to consider at sell/trade-in time. The 5 handles like a sedan (thus the zoom-zoom). The Kia shakes on the freeway and is like the wagon that it is. However, to each his own.

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