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looks like Mazda Canada is starting to get the 2008 info set (looks like its not all complete at this time) the base GS model has increased by $800 and the GT now include a/c as standard but is reflected in the price. The new 5-speed auto is now an $1100 option up from $1000 for the 2007 4-speed version.
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Replying to: conwelpic (Dec 05, 2007 2:51 pm) Mazda 5 sales in Canada for November 2007 - 711, Rondo - 670 Mazda 5 sales in USA for Nov - 468, Rondo - 3570
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Replying to: conwelpic (Dec 06, 2007 5:54 am) http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2007/12/04/kia-canada-november-sales/ |
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Replying to: conwelpic (Dec 06, 2007 5:54 am) Mazda 5 sales in USA for Nov - 468, Rondo - 3570 Assuming these numbers are correct, they show a few things: (1) Canadians bought about a third of this class of cars as the Americans, although the population is much smaller. (2) Americans prefer the Rondo much more that the Mazda, while the Canadians show only a slight preference to the Mazda. while #1 is probably due to the American culture ("I want my car big!"), I wonder what is the reason for #2. Is it better Mazda marketing or pricing in Canada? (I live in the Boston area, and a Kia Rondo EX V6 owner)
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Replying to: zklopman (Dec 12, 2007 2:32 pm)
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Replying to: kivo (Dec 13, 2007 7:16 am)  I believe that we may need more trending numbers to draw the conclusion that zklopman is posting, although yes, I see a preference for the Rondo over the Mazda5 here in the US. Possibly one of the top attributes of the Mazda5 is scaring off Americans: the sliding door as it "resembles" a Minivan (just see how the Mazda5 is classified within this forum  ). In Europe and Asia minivans are not well known so it doesn't fall into that classification (and they are hot items there)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Dec 13, 2007 8:35 am) I think that the Rondo's big advantage in the US is the dealer network/setup, along with the advertising. The MZ5 is a relative unknown to shoppers because of the lack of advertising. So if a person comes in looking at say a Mazda3, the sell-up is either to a 3 hatchback, a 6 or the CX-7 CUV. Even if the 5 is presented as an alternative, all the uneducated buyer will see is MINIVAN sliding doors! I don't know why, but Americans seem to have a dislike for sliding doors, even while complaining about tight parking spots. The Rondo slots in at a different point. Kia advertises heavily, and especially in my area, there is a constant ad along the lines of: "Need a Car? Have $99? Come see Kia." This may bring people in for the basic Rio. Also, due to Kia's ever-increasing quality, I believe that the repeat buyer numbers are probably pretty high. So you either have someone coming in looking at a new Rio/Optima, or maybe a previous owner looking for a bigger car. For Kia, the Rondo is that bigger car. The Sportage CUV is there, but the Rondo can be presented as a cheap bigger car.The the uneducated buyer, the Rondo is a car (4 doors) and is styled vaguely crossover-ish. I don't think that most people research and analyze several alternatives as much as those here on the forums. For those that don't, I think Kia has a better up-sell/cross-sell path to the Rondo than Mazda does to the 5. For those the take the time to get educated, both the 5 and Rondo come out a great cars in different ways. That is the think about competition, in it's true form, competition tends to bring out several good alternatives. |
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Anyone with experience with the temperature in the 3rd row for either the Rondo or Mazda5? I'm wondering how any heat gets to the feet of 3rd row passengers. Can heat flow under the 2nd row seats to the floor of the 3rd row?
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Replying to: bobw3 (Dec 14, 2007 7:30 am)  . I'll have to wait until Summer to try it out I guess. Regardless, the front seats have ducts underneath to make the air circulate around. Now that I think, 6 people seating in a Mazda5 sounds like a lot of human heat to me, who needs a powerful heater for that? 
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Dec 14, 2007 8:41 am) |
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