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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo

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Re: Why still no crash test results for the Mazda5? [kparola] by conwelpic
Nov 08, 2007 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: kparola (Nov 07, 2007 12:40 pm)

I just purchase a week ago a 2008 Rondo EX 5-seater with the 2.4L 4-cylinder (Canadian model). The performance of this engine is outstanding and for my purpose I could see no reason to purchase a V6. It out-performs my previous vehicle, which was a '86 Old Cutlass Ciera with a 2.8L V6!
I also considered the Mazda 5, but in my case I did not like the sliding rear door and also had no reason for requiring the rear 3rd seats, I also didn't like the black interior on the Mazda 5, prefer the lighter grey version on my Rondo.
I found the Rondo offered more features for the dollar and a longer warranty. Having driven it for a week now (only have 440km on it) I find the stereo outstanding, and enjoying those heated seats and heated outside mirrors. Had the opportunity to check it out very closely yesterday and found the fit and finish hard to fault - very well put together. Only time will tell if this continues. Not put any gas in it yet, so hard to tell how the mileage will work out.
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Re: Why still no crash test results for the Mazda5? [kparola] by kivo
Nov 08, 2007 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: kparola (Nov 07, 2007 12:40 pm)

That seems to be true about the US tests, but the Mazda5 has been crash tested in Europe and the results were excellent. Some of those tests are very rough.
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Re: Why still no crash test results for the Mazda5? [kparola] by coolmazda5
Nov 08, 2007 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: kparola (Nov 07, 2007 12:40 pm)

Agree, there may not be (yet) NHTSA American centric crash test results, but if the Mazda5 passed the Japanese NCAP and EuroNCAP crash tests with the highest ratings, then there should not be anything to hide in my opinion (BMW, Volvo, Honda or even Renault in Europe and Japan would be a good comparison point).
 
Mazda5 Wins Highest Crash Safety Rating from EU and Japanese New Car Testing Agencies
http://www.japancorp.net/Article.asp?Art_ID=12380
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Re: Consumer Guide & Consumer Reports [medicineman] by medicineman
Nov 08, 2007 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: medicineman (Nov 05, 2007 3:18 pm)

Quoting myself here:
In the December 2007 issue of Consumer Reports, there is finally a review of the Rondo (sorry, no link). The Rondo got a score of 76 out of 100 (thanks, viking79, for that info). The Mazda5 got a score of 86 in CR's 2007 annual auto issue, topping the "Wagons and Hatchbacks" category. If the Rondo were included in that category, it would have been tied for fourth out of 22 vehicles.
 
Watch a video of CR's evaluation of the Rondo. It's short and sweet and incomplete.
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Re: Consumer Guide & Consumer Reports [medicineman] by ramblin
Nov 09, 2007 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: medicineman (Nov 08, 2007 6:48 pm)

Looks like he hit 6000 rpm at the end of the clip. I don't think I've done that yet.
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My Opinion by wardw
Nov 11, 2007 (7:23 am)
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I went to the Tampa Auto Show yesterday and checked out the Rondo (no Mazda5's there.....don't think the 2008's are out yet....but, I own a 2007 to compare it to). I really liked the Rondo. If I did not require sliding rear doors, I would have selected the Rondo over the Mazda5.
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Re: US Rondo sales vs Mazda 5 sales [conwelpic] by conwelpic
Nov 11, 2007 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Nov 06, 2007 2:03 pm)

Finally got the figures through for vehicle sales in Canada for October 2007, and a real surprise, for the first time the Rondo has outsold the Mazda 5:
 
Rondo - 828
Mazda 5 - 823
 
Couldn't get much closer than that! However, on a year-to-date basis the Mazda 5 is nearly 4000 units ahead of the Rondo.
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Finally saw a Mazda 5 by ramblin
Nov 11, 2007 (7:58 pm)
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Sharp looking car. Not sure what year it was.
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Re: US Rondo sales vs Mazda 5 sales [conwelpic] by coolmazda5
Nov 12, 2007 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Nov 11, 2007 6:19 pm)

Hmmm, more Mazda5s sold than in the US actually
 
Given the availability time for the 2008 mazda5 in NA (US and Canada) reality seems that the Mazda5 is not a Mazda business priority (marketing-production-sales) for these 2 markets (i.e. cash cow like the Mazda3)
 
Take a look of the numbers for Mazda in general, a different story. Also, my theory is that there may not be more significant sales of 2007 Mazda5s during this past month because potential owners are waiting for the 2008 (with all the new improvements/enhancements) to come.
 
MAZDA reports double digit sales increase for third straight month
http://media.ford.com/mazda/article_display.cfm?article_id=27150&make_id=227
 
Also, in other markets Mazda5 is a big seller and award winner, so if I were Mazda I would ship my production to those markets instead (which I think they are doing anyway ):
 
Mazda5 Awards Worldwide
http://www.mazda.co.za/servlet/ContentServer?cid=1163398491496&pagename=Page&sit- - - - - e=MSA&c=DFYPage
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Toronto Star comparison by medicineman
Nov 24, 2007 (8:11 am)
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Here's another comparative review of the Rondo and Mazda5 (why are all the comparative reviews thus far from the Canadian press?): New breed of minivans shrink to broaden their appeal.
 
The Mazda5 gets the edge over the Rondo. I mostly agree with everything that was said in this review, although I would come to a different conclusion (I bought the Rondo over the Mazda5, after all). This review was of the 2007 Mazda5, not the more feature-rich 2008 version. Plus, the review never mentions looks, which I think the Mazda5 wins by default due to the Rondo's unconventional aesthetics--some think it's butt ugly; others like the looks; I just think it's bland or odd (I'm not sure if I stated that before, but that's what I think now).

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