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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo

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Re: Consumer Guide & Consumer Reports [bobw3] by coolmazda5
Nov 05, 2007 (10:03 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Nov 05, 2007 3:28 pm)

I agree, there are no other cars like them in NA really. Next car comparison is going to have the Mazda5 and/or Rondo vs. school buses, horse carriages or even car rental/airport shuttles. Hey, as long as both haul people
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General comments verging on irrelevance :) by medicineman
Nov 06, 2007 (2:41 am)
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As a Rondo owner, I'm continually amazed with the amount of good reviews and recommendations that the Rondo has been getting. For the Mazda5 to get similar praise seems to be a given, but we're talking about a Kia here. I keep half expecting the curtain to be pulled back and the little old man to be exposed using smoke and mirrors. Alas, the continual good news about the Rondo just verifies that I made the right choice for myself. You would think my real world experience with the Rondo should be good enough proof. Nope. I guess I'm not a secure enough person and need the positive reinforcement.
 
Like I've said in the past, I don't think you can go wrong with either vehicle. The generally positive evaluations that both vehicles have been getting is proof of that. I don't think either vehicle has a major weakness, but they do have relative strengths and weaknesses when compared to each other (which is the point of this thread). All you can do is point out those relative strengths and weaknesses according to your own point of view and let others agree or disagree with you.
 
BTW, I'm not trying to sound "fair and balanced" just for the benefit of Mazda5 owners. I'm not toning it down here and letting out my true feelings at an external Rondo forum (and those Rondo owners at that external forum will back me up on this if needed, hopefully). This is indeed what I truly think. Make no mistake--I obviously prefer the Rondo and I've pointed out why I prefer it. But I really am impressed with the Mazda5, too. About the worst thing I've ever said about the 5, here or at that external forum, is that it looks like a minivan. In fact, from what I've witnessed, Rondo owners in general seem to be a humble bunch. They don't obsess much over which vehicle is "better." I can't even remember the last time a Rondo owner made what can be construed as a mocking remark about the "competition" (the old "mock others to build yourself up" trick--I'm not talking about informative criticism here).
 
Okay, I need to say this, so bear with me. All forum discussions seem to suffer from this kind of misunderstanding: if one were to say, "I like dogs," someone will inevitably ask, "Why do you hate cats?" The point is, don't read too much into it. So when I say Rondo owners are generally humble, I'm not implying that Mazda5 owners are not. When I say Rondo owners don't obsess much over which vehicle is better, I'm not implying that Mazda5 owners do obsess over it. How the heck would I know what Mazda5 owners are like, anyway? Sure, I've hung out at Mazda forums before I purchased the Rondo, but I don't have any lasting impression to make a generalized comment about Mazda5 owners. And when I say that I see merit in both vehicles, I'm not implying that everyone should see things the same way. Etc., etc., blah, blah, blah.
 
Anyway, I hope you all enjoyed that. What, you're still awake?
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Mazda Chat Night by
Nov 06, 2007 (5:20 am)
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It's election day! So once you've done your civic duty, why not stop in at our weekly Mazda chat to meet and greet CarSpace friends?
 
The Mazda Club Chat is on tonight. The chat room opens at 8:45PM ET Hope to see YOU there! Check out the schedule
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Re: Mazda Chat Night [pf_flyer] by bgw
Nov 06, 2007 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: unknown (Nov 06, 2007 5:20 am)

It's election day for who? I'm in Canada and we are not currently having any elections.
Please remember this forum is global, not Amero-centred.
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Re: Mazda Chat Night [bgw] by bobw3
Nov 06, 2007 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: bgw (Nov 06, 2007 7:54 am)

what's a canada?
 
 
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US Rondo sales vs Mazda 5 sales by conwelpic
Nov 06, 2007 (1:03 pm)
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Looks like the Mazda 5 is not doing too well in the US with October sales of 558 units (Oct 2006 928 units), the Rondo had sales of 2751 for the same month (Oct 2006, 3 units - where did they come from )
Wonder when the US is going to start getting 2008 models?
 
North of the border in Canada (you know that place where the dollar is worth more than the US greenback ) they sold 828 Rondo's (one of them was my EX 2.4L model), however, I don't have the sales for the Mazda 5 for October, but generally it outsells the Rondo.
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Re: Mazda Chat Night [bgw] by lostwrench
Nov 06, 2007 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: bgw (Nov 06, 2007 7:54 am)

whom
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Re: US Rondo sales vs Mazda 5 sales [conwelpic] by coolmazda5
Nov 07, 2007 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Nov 06, 2007 1:03 pm)

Wonder when the US is going to start getting 2008 models?
 
The latest on the Mazda5:
eilros, "Rondo vs Outlander/Rav4/Santa Fe/Mazda5" #218, 24 Oct 2007 2:20 pm
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Why still no crash test results for the Mazda5? by kparola
Nov 07, 2007 (11:40 am)
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I have been trying to decide between the Rondo and the Mazda5. I want a replacement for my 1999 Toyota Sienna and the new minivans have just gotten too big for my tastes and garage. I'd like something small that still has the option of third row seating.
 
I test drove both the V4 and V6 Rondo and liked the V6 a lot more than I thought I would. I like the concept of the Mazda5. My favorite feature is the sliding doors, which would protect me from door dings in my garage. But I have yet to test drive the Mazda5 for one major reason. I can't understand why a car model that has been out since 2006 has not been crash tested? Is Mazda trying to hide something? I think this is inexcusable. I would also like to see ECS on the Mazda5, which seems to be standard equipment on most of its competitors.
 
BTW, I also looked at the Mitsubishi Outlander which I liked the best of the three for its exterior appearance. But I did not like its very dark interior and its clamshell third seat was a joke.
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Re: Why still no crash test results for the Mazda5? [kparola] by bgw
Nov 08, 2007 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: kparola (Nov 07, 2007 11:40 am)

Not to nitpick but the 4 cylinder in the Rondo is an inline 4, written as I4 or L4. No cars sold in North America have V4's.
I have a V6 Rondo but also looked at the Mazda5, which I liked tremendously. I decided against it since it is not rated to tow at all, whereas the Rondo can tow 2000 lbs.

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