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#227 of 859 Consumer Guide & Consumer Reports
Nov 05, 2007 (3:18 pm)
For the Consumer Guide's 2008 Best Buy and Recommended Awards, here are the vehicles chosen in the "Midsize Car" category:
In the December 2007 issue of Consumer Reports, there is finally a review of the Rondo (sorry, no link). The Rondo got a score of 76 out of 100 (thanks, viking79, for that info). The Mazda5 got a score of 86 in CR's 2007 annual auto issue, topping the "Wagons and Hatchbacks" category. If the Rondo were included in that category, it would have been tied for fourth out of 22 vehicles.
So there you go for studies with "Consumer" in the title.
#228 of 859 Re: Consumer Guide & Consumer Reports [medicineman]
Nov 05, 2007 (4:28 pm)
It's hard to do any comparisons with cars like the Rondo or Mazda5 because they're pretty unique vehicles with their small size, 3 rows, and they're not trying to be small SUVs.
#229 of 859 Re: Consumer Guide & Consumer Reports [bobw3]
Nov 05, 2007 (11:03 pm)
I agree, there are no other cars like them in NA really. Next car comparison is going to have the Mazda5 and/or Rondo vs. school buses, horse carriages or even car rental/airport shuttles. Hey, as long as both haul people
#230 of 859 General comments verging on irrelevance :)
Nov 06, 2007 (3:41 am)
As a Rondo owner, I'm continually amazed with the amount of good reviews and recommendations that the Rondo has been getting. For the Mazda5 to get similar praise seems to be a given, but we're talking about a Kia here. I keep half expecting the curtain to be pulled back and the little old man to be exposed using smoke and mirrors. Alas, the continual good news about the Rondo just verifies that I made the right choice for myself. You would think my real world experience with the Rondo should be good enough proof. Nope. I guess I'm not a secure enough person and need the positive reinforcement.
Like I've said in the past, I don't think you can go wrong with either vehicle. The generally positive evaluations that both vehicles have been getting is proof of that. I don't think either vehicle has a major weakness, but they do have relative strengths and weaknesses when compared to each other (which is the point of this thread). All you can do is point out those relative strengths and weaknesses according to your own point of view and let others agree or disagree with you.
BTW, I'm not trying to sound "fair and balanced" just for the benefit of Mazda5 owners. I'm not toning it down here and letting out my true feelings at an external Rondo forum (and those Rondo owners at that external forum will back me up on this if needed, hopefully). This is indeed what I truly think. Make no mistake--I obviously prefer the Rondo and I've pointed out why I prefer it. But I really am impressed with the Mazda5, too. About the worst thing I've ever said about the 5, here or at that external forum, is that it looks like a minivan. In fact, from what I've witnessed, Rondo owners in general seem to be a humble bunch. They don't obsess much over which vehicle is "better." I can't even remember the last time a Rondo owner made what can be construed as a mocking remark about the "competition" (the old "mock others to build yourself up" trick--I'm not talking about informative criticism here).
Okay, I need to say this, so bear with me. All forum discussions seem to suffer from this kind of misunderstanding: if one were to say, "I like dogs," someone will inevitably ask, "Why do you hate cats?" The point is, don't read too much into it. So when I say Rondo owners are generally humble, I'm not implying that Mazda5 owners are not. When I say Rondo owners don't obsess much over which vehicle is better, I'm not implying that Mazda5 owners do obsess over it. How the heck would I know what Mazda5 owners are like, anyway? Sure, I've hung out at Mazda forums before I purchased the Rondo, but I don't have any lasting impression to make a generalized comment about Mazda5 owners. And when I say that I see merit in both vehicles, I'm not implying that everyone should see things the same way. Etc., etc., blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, I hope you all enjoyed that. What, you're still awake?
#232 of 859 Re: Mazda Chat Night [pf_flyer]
Nov 06, 2007 (8:54 am)
It's election day for who? I'm in Canada and we are not currently having any elections.
Please remember this forum is global, not Amero-centred.
#233 of 859 Re: Mazda Chat Night [bgw]
Nov 06, 2007 (10:18 am)
what's a canada?
#234 of 859 US Rondo sales vs Mazda 5 sales
Nov 06, 2007 (2:03 pm)
Looks like the Mazda 5 is not doing too well in the US with October sales of 558 units (Oct 2006 928 units), the Rondo had sales of 2751 for the same month (Oct 2006, 3 units - where did they come from )
Wonder when the US is going to start getting 2008 models?
North of the border in Canada (you know that place where the dollar is worth more than the US greenback ) they sold 828 Rondo's (one of them was my EX 2.4L model), however, I don't have the sales for the Mazda 5 for October, but generally it outsells the Rondo.
#235 of 859 Re: Mazda Chat Night [bgw]
Nov 06, 2007 (3:47 pm)