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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [vegasrondo] by coolmazda5
Jul 20, 2007 (4:03 pm)
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Replying to: vegasrondo (Jun 16, 2007 10:32 pm)

Didn't like the air conditioning (weak)or the non standard stereo unit.
 
I believe the weak A/C issues will be addressed in the 2008 Model which should be coming soon (link below), especially if you live in Vegas . Where I live has not been a big issue (so far).
 
So, for the ones who haven't made a purchase and can wait, follow the Mazda news.
 
http://media.ford.com/mazda/article_display.cfm?article_id=26425&make_id=227
 
Now, with regards to the non standard stereo unit, I'm not sure if I followed your comment correctly . The base model (Sport) already comes with AM/FM/CD Player. As options you can get a 6 CD in-dash player and/or MP3/WMA capable.
 
Anyway, tell us how it goes with your purchase and keep cool up there. Love Vegas but I dunno what I would do if I live there (Bellagio fountains every evening perhaps?)
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [coolmazda5] by conwelpic
Jul 20, 2007 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 20, 2007 3:31 pm)

while in the UK last year I came across a most interesting vehicle from Toyota called the Verso. Now if that was available in Canada it would be one I would give serious thought depending of course on the price. I brought back the brochure with me. They sure do elaborate brochures, this one has 47 pages in one direction then you flip it over and it has another 9 pages just covering the accessories.
 
you can see the vehicle at:
http://www.toyota.co.uk
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [conwelpic] by toronado455
Jul 20, 2007 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Jul 20, 2007 4:17 pm)

I like the Verso a lot. I just didn't mention it because I think I like the Wish better. But I'd be very happy if Toyota brought the Verso to the USA.
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [coolmazda5] by toronado455
Jul 20, 2007 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 20, 2007 3:31 pm)

CoolMazda5, I agree with you about the mainstream USA market. Way too SUV-centric if you ask me.
 
I don't know that I decidedly prefer the Rondo over the Mazda5. When I said it edged it out I was just agreeing with the points made by the previous poster.
 
The Mazda5 has been only "average" in Consumer Reports reliability ratings. Though there has only been one year of ratings so far. It could get better.
 
I want a car that gets at least an "above average" or "much better than average" reliability rating from CR.
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [toronado455] by coolmazda5
Jul 21, 2007 (4:45 am)
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Replying to: toronado455 (Jul 20, 2007 6:39 pm)


I don't know that I decidedly prefer the Rondo over the Mazda5. When I said it edged it out I was just agreeing with the points made by the previous poster.

 
Got it
 

The Mazda5 has been only "average" in Consumer Reports reliability ratings. Though there has only been one year of ratings so far. It could get better.
 
I want a car that gets at least an "above average" or "much better than average" reliability rating from CR.

 
Who doesn't?
 
I could only say that you need to keep into account the model (year) that you may want to buy. I got the very first 2006 Mazda5 batch in 2005 so, yes, I got some of the common first model "bugs" that may have hit the overall reliability numbers. Yet, Mazda acted fast so for the 2007 model those issues have been corrected. Yes, I took the risk in 2005 but I would do it all over again, the car is worth it (in addition that Mazda owners in general are very knowledgeable, enthusiastic and helpful, as I've experienced in other Non-Edmunds forums).
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [coolmazda5] by vegasrondo
Jul 21, 2007 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 20, 2007 4:03 pm)

In my post #161, I referred to the Mazda 5 not having a standard DIM or duel DIM stereo chassis. The unit in the Mazda 5 is unique for the dash. It does not appear to be able to be changed out. I can do so with the Rondo as it has a standard 2X DIM head. After a full month with this unit, I dislike it more and more every day. Too dim of a display panel to read. Other than that, the Rondo is still great. Still getting a solid 16 MPG in 80% stop and go driving with the A/C going full tilt.
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [coolmazda5] by toronado455
Jul 21, 2007 (9:09 pm)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jul 21, 2007 4:45 am)

I should say CR does like the Mazda5 a lot and they list it as a quick pick. Though they haven't road tested the Rondo yet.
 
I have to say, that strong A/C is important to me. And I think a vehicle this size should have V6 power (which the Rondo does). Though 4-bangers are getting more and more powerful these days so it doesn't matter as much as it used to.
 
I also like the roominess of the Rondo interior as compared to the Mazda5 in the CanadianDriver review. http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/07rondo.htm
 
But I think both these vehicles are very nice.
 
I used to have a 1st gen Dodge Caravan (SWB) V6 and it was very similar in size. The mainstream minivans have all gotten so big and bloated they can hardly be called "mini" anymore. So it's great to see at least two offerings in this size.
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [vegasrondo] by coolmazda5
Jul 22, 2007 (4:02 am)
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Replying to: vegasrondo (Jul 21, 2007 5:59 pm)

vegasrondo replied:
n my post #161, I referred to the Mazda 5 not having a standard DIM or duel DIM stereo chassis. The unit in the Mazda 5 is unique for the dash. It does not appear to be able to be changed out. I can do so with the Rondo as it has a standard 2X DIM head. After a full month with this unit, I dislike it more and more every day. Too dim of a display panel to read. Other than that, the Rondo is still great
 
OK, got it. I hear you, for my old Honda I can still get a good CD MP3/WMA player for ~USD$120 in Circuit City or Best Buy (free install), but for the Mazda5 (good thing it had already the in-dash 6CD Player, wife loves it) I would need to get it OEM. So Best Buy or e-bay may be still an after market option in your case.
 
Still getting a solid 16 MPG in 80% stop and go driving with the A/C going full tilt
 
Are you sure it is only 16MPG? It sounds really low for a 4 cylinder, regardless of the A/C. One report for the V6 had had that earlier (family with children fully loaded )
 
Report:
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2007/04/suburban_dad_20_1.html
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [toronado455] by coolmazda5
Jul 22, 2007 (4:21 am)
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Replying to: toronado455 (Jul 21, 2007 9:09 pm)

I have to say, that strong A/C is important to me. And I think a vehicle this size should have V6 power (which the Rondo does). Though 4-bangers are getting more and more powerful these days so it doesn't matter as much as it used to.
 
If it is an Auto Transmission, yes, I would agree. Now, I have a Manual so the 4cyl works great. Wife is the primary driver and she has no issues with the HP (I should also say she does not drive nor accelerate like I do )
 
I used to have a 1st gen Dodge Caravan (SWB) V6 and it was very similar in size. The mainstream minivans have all gotten so big and bloated they can hardly be called "mini" anymore. So it's great to see at least two offerings in this size.
 
Yes, I agree. Somebody told me last time that my Mazda5 had "just" the size of the very first generation Honda Odyssey (like a sign of going backwards) so I replied: "Well, it is not intended to compete against minivans, plus I don't need a bigger car, it is just the ideal size to me"
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [vegasrondo] by dakota29803
Jul 22, 2007 (4:58 am)
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Replying to: vegasrondo (Jul 21, 2007 5:59 pm)

I am suprised that you find the Rondo display panel too dim to read. I do not have that problem. Is it possible that you drive with the headlights on and have not turned up the intensity of the display lighting? Jusst a thought. I do find that it is impossible to read the clock under certain sunlight coonditions.

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