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Replying to: prulex (Jun 04, 2007 8:14 am) http://www.strategicvision.com/auto_segmentwinners.php?year=2007&award=TQA&seg=19
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Replying to: rwm2 (Jun 04, 2007 4:19 pm) http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/pressrelease.aspx?id=2007088
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Replying to: dakota29803 (Jun 08, 2007 5:58 am)
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Replying to: conwelpic (Jun 08, 2007 2:39 pm) and to quote "Kia posts the largest improvement in ranking, moving from 24th in 2006 to 12th in 2007", that just shows how fast the quality is improving - should put some of those skeptics to rest! Good job for KIA (somebody posted the other day that the KIA CEO is a big fan of quality, which always supports this case). Now, as I mentioned earlier, with regards to (wrt.) quality, yes, KIA may have improved greatly if you like, but the car is still a KIA. Quality is supporting KIA to become a better brand, but the skepticism does not only come from quality itself, but also from its unique style, features, design, etc. KIA still lacks style and design to say the least. I would give it another 5 years to get there (i.e. to fight Toyota, Honda or even Nissan).
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Replying to: arumage (Jun 04, 2007 8:25 am) All those things are nice, but if you can't fit in the vehicle, what good are they to you? I didn't fit in the Forester. I had to spread my legs apart to keep my knees from hitting the front seat when sitting in the rear. My head also touches the ceiling in the 2nd row. I fit like a glove in the Rondo, even with the driver's seat all the way back. The priority to buy a car should be in the seat(s) you and your loved ones drive or ride 95% of the time. Now, if you are chauffeured or have teenager kids 5'9'' or up, Arumage brings a good point. Yet, in that case, I would go for a Lincoln TownCar or a Suburban, not a Rondo, a Forester or a Mazda5. Some questions that could help: - When is the last time I rode in the back seat of my own car? (my case: never, I also have a 1999 Honda, bought brand new) - How many times Have I used the full car capacity, with the 3rd row unfolded, a total of 5 adults, a baby on its car seat and the stroller? (my case: once in 2 years, the big stroller actually fits! but one of its front wheels was sticking out of the 3rd row back seat. Greatest comfort for the passengers: No, accomplished the goal: Yes. Would I do this everyday: No!  )
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jun 09, 2007 4:09 am)
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Replying to: dakota29803 (Jun 09, 2007 5:31 am) If you buy your car for style (looks) at the expense of functionality then go elsewhere Hmmm... I have a Mazda5, so we got the style (looks) at no functionality expense (ask my wife, car is very versatile and looks great  )... dakota29803 replied: I think the Kia Rondo is a far more attractive car than the Honda Fit, Honda Element or any of the Scions I'm 100% with you on that one! The models you listed are ugly  . My comment was more oriented to more down-to-earth cars like the Honda Civic, Honda Accord, Honda CR-V, Toyota Camry, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Quest or Nissan Altima (even the 300ZX, but that is not really a concept targeting family cars). |
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Jun 09, 2007 4:35 am)
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they say that styling is a subjective kind of a thing and it must be. Because Mazda styling, though not ugly, has always had a "blocky-chunky" sort of a look to me and Kia has always had a smoother, more inventive look that involved a higher degree of intelligence to design it. Therefore, it required a higher degree of intelligence to notice it. With the Mazda5 and the Kia Rondo the same formula holds true. The Rondo wins hands down in the styling department. Kia is there right now for quality, design innovation, value and low initial pricing. True, Kia pricing is rising, but most everyone's pricing is rising a tad. Oh, and Mazda's Warranty just doesn't cut the mustard to go with my Chicago hot dog, either.
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Replying to: arumage (Jun 09, 2007 10:05 am) It is interesting to see the "2nd car need" to ride. My earlier "5 adult - one baby" case was about to also become a "We need 2 cars" case as well. Surprisingly the huge Graco stroller fit in the back of the 3rd row, so one car was needed at the end. My family is tall as well (e.g. brother 6'2", me 5'11")... The only other thing I noted is your concern for the fuel economy (who isn't nowadays  ?) so I'll just point you to the article below about the Rondo's V6 option (I read this on a non-Edmunds blog earlier but it seems that the article is there as well). 15MPG City is a real gas guzzler for a car that size, so if you go for the Rondo, you better consider the 4cyl option http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2007/04/suburban_dad_20_1.html
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