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806 messages, Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 2:38 PM
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Replying to: dagmar3 (Nov 18, 2006 7:57 pm)
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EX, LX & LX Popular Equipment. link |
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http://www.bcautocentral.com/article.pl?id=3369&paper=28 http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_T- ype1&c=Article&cid=1163717411617&call_pageid=968867497088&col=969048871196 http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/autos/story/3778559p-4370241c.html All pretty favourable, I might add. Watch out, Mazda5! |
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If the info holds true (from the Winnipeg Free Press review) then the Rondo will be able to tow a 1000kg un-braked trailer (either with the 4 cyl or V6) or 1500 kg for the 4 cyl if the trailer has brakes and 2000 kg for the V6 if the trailer has brakes. Take that, Mazda5, as you can't tow squat. This fact alone would push me over to a Rondo instead of a Mazda5. |
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Replying to: dagmar3 (Nov 18, 2006 7:57 pm) |
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You can't compare a Mazda 5 w/ a Kia Rondo. Hyundai/Kia make reliable cars, but where are they in 5-10 years? Mazdas last, and I don't mean Ford/Mazdas, true Mazdas, the Mazda 3& 5 are 2 of the best cars on the road. H/K don't have anything on them, they have to market their cars with huge warranties and incentives just like GM/Ford/Chrysler just to get cars off their lots. While Mazda can't keep the 5 on the lot. |
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This is a mazda board, not a Kia crap board. To all of you Kia lovers move on. If you have a Mazda, sell it buy your Kia and live with it. When you are on the side of the road I will be laughing.
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| Yep, I've rented some dreadful Kias over the years. But they continue to improve and here's the thing: The Rondo has features that could attract people downsizing from both full-size vans and medium SUVs. I think racks and some towing capacity are key to those of us coming Subaru Outbacks and similar vehicles while others prize features like stability and traction control. Mazda could have done that too. And maybe they will if they read these forums. I'm giving some credit to Kia for more fully exploring the concept of the small, six-seater utility vehicle. Happy as I am with my Mazda 5 it urks me that I've had to hang on to another vehicle to tow my small boat. | |
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but the thread is "Mazda5 vs Kia Rondo", so I think we should be able to discuss the Kia product here. I'm not a Kia lover, have never owned or rented a Kia vehicle, or even driven in one for that matter, but we have had Mazda's in the family. My general perception is, however, that both Kia & Hyundai have made huge improvements in there vehicles in the last couple of years and can't simply be dismissed based on past reputation. And lets face it, Mazda, though respectable, hasn't actually been sitting at the top of the reliability charts. That being said, I think there are positives and negatives for both vehicles. Styling.....have to give the nod to the '5', despite my intense dislike of the side-sills and tuner tail lights, though the Rondo apparently looks better in person than in photos. Interior space...the Kia is slightly roomier in every dimension, save for cargo space behind the 3rd row, which quite frankly, neither of these vehicles would win an award for. The Mazda's 3rd row is a bit more accessible, due to the walk-through, and looks more accomodating for adults, though I think we would all agree that the 3rd row in either of these vehicles is best left for kids or maybe your mother-in-law. The 5's sliders are handier than the Rondo's regular doors, at the expense of the ugly door tracks on the exterior of the vehicle. Power....Kia has the edge with both their 4 cyl and V6, while enjoying a slight edge in fuel economy as well. Kia cheaped out with a 4 speed auto on their 4 cyl, but they do have a 5-soeed auto on the six. Mazda has the edge in having a manual transmission available, though even if Kia offered one, I doubt it could match Mazda's shift quality. Kia certainly seems to have the edge in safety features (full compliment of airbags, traction & stability control) as well as comfort & convenience (leather, heated seats roof rack etc.) and it's priced competitively as well. Handling would probably go to the Mazda, thought the Kia reviewers were quite impressed with the way it handled. Towing is the kicker for me, as the 5 isn't rated to tow but the Rondo has quite respectable tow ratings. Final verdicts will have to wait until extensive test drives etc. but this is how I see them stacking up so far.
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Replying to: wheelz4 (Nov 22, 2006 9:01 am) Plus the styling of the Mazda 5 (especially the rear) looks too much like it was designed for teens. I think the Mazda5 Sport package should include the "tuner" exterior mods, while the Touring version should be styled for adults.
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