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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo

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New competition for Mazda5 by 204meca
Nov 12, 2006 (10:19 pm)
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Saturday I stumbled upon a rather nice looking mini-minivan at the Kia dealer they had just received. It is called the Ronda. The very spacious interior layout was looked great, power is a 2.4L engine, & it had a full suite of safety features including 6 airbags, ABS, traction control, & dynamic stability control all for a little over $18K. My inital impression was very positive.
  
I had not heard of this model & apparently the is very little info on the US model (tried Goggle). After a little hunting I discovered that this car is marketed as the "Carens" in the UK. It is available there with a 2.0 gas or diesel engine. UK reviews, while not bad, are lukewarm when compared to the Mazda5 and the comparable Renault and Vauxal models. Hard not to envy the European's wide selection choices of efficient vehicles!
 
Apparently they are just starting to arrive & Kia has not yet launched any advertising. Time will tell how well it can compete in the US.
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [204meca] by aladdinsane
Nov 13, 2006 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: 204meca (Nov 12, 2006 10:19 pm)

The Ronda may indeed "steal" sales from the Mazda5.
Why?
At least the Ronda comes fully equipped with traction/dynamic stability control...something the 5 doesn't even have as an option, at least for now.
I do have this strong feeling though that the 2008 version of the 5 will have traction/stability control, as the '07 Mazda3 now has as an option (I believe) on its upper level versions.
 
Peace!
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Kia "Rondo" by kandor71
Nov 13, 2006 (11:32 am)
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Not to be a spell checker
It is called the RONDO not RONDA
 
And you can't compare the quality between the 2, I will put any Mazda product against any Hyundai/Kia any day and it will come out on top.
 
Look at the depreciation on H/K products compared to Mazda
 
H/K are definitely improving but still not near as good as Mazda
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [aladdinsane] by d_hyper
Nov 13, 2006 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: aladdinsane (Nov 13, 2006 5:04 am)

A rising tide will lift all the boats. You will see Mz5 sales actually growing after Rondo's introduction. Of course, this is IF my marketing knowledge is worth anything.
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Re: Kia "Rondo" [kandor71] by rockytee
Nov 13, 2006 (11:09 pm)
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Replying to: kandor71 (Nov 13, 2006 11:32 am)

Look at the depreciation on H/K products compared to Mazda
Mazda's MPV depreciate just as much as H/K. Maybe Ford's parts has something to do with it..... not being reliable.
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Re: New competition for Mazda5 [d_hyper] by bobw3
Nov 14, 2006 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: d_hyper (Nov 13, 2006 11:47 am)

Actually, I was thinking the same thing. It's like the Honda Fit and Versa will increase the visibility of the subcompacts and get others looking the subcompact category in general, where-as before they might not have considered them.
 
Similar with the Rondo, if you had other micro-minivans out there, then there would be more visibility for the micro-minivan category, so more people would consider them as an option to a full-size minivan, where-as right now with only the Mazda5, I don't think it's even considered as a full-size minivan substitute because it's hard to get a lot of visibility to the micro-minivan category with only one vehicle in that category.
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Kia Rondo Fuel Economy by yysyys
Nov 16, 2006 (1:15 pm)
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2.4L(4cyl) Auto 2WD 21/29
2.7L(6cyl) Auto 2WD 20/27
 
Source: epa.gav
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The Rondo....just arriving in Canada by wheelz4
Nov 17, 2006 (10:47 am)
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Couple of pics up on Kia Canada's website now....
http://www.kia.ca/home.asp?lang=en
plus a preview article on the Auto123/Canadian Automotive Network site....
http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/roadtest,view,KIA.spy?artid=72406
 
Mazda better hurry up and get a 5 speed auto in the 5.
Also traction and stability control, which the Rondo has.
Rondo (Carens in UK) is rated to tow 700kg (1500 lbs) (1500kg(3300 lbs) if the trailer has brakes)....if this holds true for our version, then it's a done deal, as the '5' isn't rated to tow diddlysquat. (Don't want to tow a horsetrailer but a jet ski/snow machine/14' aluminum fishing boat/dirt bike or small utility trailer would be nice. Hey Mazda...even a Yaris/Echo can tow 800 lbs!)
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Rondo vs. 5 by dagmar3
Nov 18, 2006 (7:57 pm)
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The major difference between the two is that the 5 has sliding minivan doors and the Rondo has swinging station wagon doors. I prefer the utility of the sliding doors myself, but they do lead to more road noise entering the cabin. That's why I had my 5 blanketed with Dynamat.

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