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#10 of 464 Re: I messed up spelling Chrysler(can't fix it> tried!) [harrychezt] by carguy58 Nov 16, 2006 (11:35 am)
Replying to: harrychezt (Nov 12, 2006 6:54 pm) "I drove the Sebring and it was acceptable, but the grey interior, plastics, all of it, did not really seem like it belonged in a nearly 19K msrp car. Felt more like it should be in a cheaper car(well, some of the chepaer cars, around 14-15K, I have seen, have better interior materials, or looked better, at least)."   Which Sebring did you drive the 07 or the 01-06 model? I did see the 07 Sebring at an auto show a couple weeks ago. Dissapointing on the interior because it was cheap like you said. When you touch the plastic it feels hard as did the 05 Pacifica's interior plastics at an auto show I went to in Feburary. The Pacifica was an 05 leftover and the MSRP was somewhere in the 34K range but they were willing to sell it for somewhere in the 27K range. That what the sticker in the window of the Pacifica said at that particular autoshow.   Another thing is a Chrysler isn't even reliable as a Ford.
#11 of 464 Re: I messed up spelling Chrysler(can't fix it> tried!) [harrychezt] by carguy58 Nov 16, 2006 (11:41 am)
Replying to: harrychezt (Nov 11, 2006 6:23 pm) "One thing that is sort of odd, is that when the Caliber came out, "Dodge" said it was to replace the Neon. How? I know some younger kids(16-25, men and women) who are mad, and said the Caliber Does Not = Neon replacement(rumors are there will be something slightly smaller than the old Neon coming out, and a car-like vehicle?)."   The difference between the Neon and the Caliber is obvious I mean the Neon is a 4dr car while the Caliber is a wagon/hatchback. I even thought of that when the Caliber came out I was like this is a wagon and not a Sedan. Even with that said I think the Caliber was doing very well at initial launch and Chrysler wasn't even meeting demand of the Caliber when in first came out. I haven't really been following Chrysler sales of late though to see if the Caliber is sustaining its early sales success that it had.
#12 of 464 As of August 2006... by andre1969 Nov 16, 2006 (11:49 am)
Dodge had sold 59,758 Calibers, including 8,877 just for that month. That's well down from what the Neon used to do when it was in its prime, but the Caliber is a slightly more nichey product, and I'm sure it has a higher profit margin. Plus, I'd imagine that fewer of them are ending up in rental fleets.   One thing I'll say for Chrysler, is that I think the quality of their hard plastics is actually pretty good. They usually have a nice texture. The problem however, is that they rely way too much on hard plastics. I'd like to see more cars with interiors the way they used to be...carpeting on the lower door panels and cloth inserts to coordinate with the seats. Replies to this message: ea1420 (Nov 16, 2006 1:53 pm)
#13 of 464 Re: As of August 2006... [andre1969] by ea1420 Nov 16, 2006 (1:53 pm)
Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 16, 2006 11:49 am) I think their interiors and their lack of warrenty are the biggest factors. I just bought a new car and I was looking at the PT Cruiser. I loved the way it handled and it had a great amount of space. However, Fisher Price toys have better finishes. And when you can pretty much go to any dealership (including Honda and Toyota) and get 5 years and 60,000 miles on the drive train the 3 year, 36,000 miles warrenty doesn't cut it. Particularly, when Chrysler isn't exactly known for it's reliability.
#14 of 464 Chrysler's problems by grbeck Nov 20, 2006 (3:22 pm)
Yesterday I stopped at the local Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep dealer to check out the new offerings (dealers are closed by law on Sunday in Pennsylvania, so I didn't have to worry about any sales representatives desperate for a sale).   The Chrysler Sebring doesn't look too bad on the inside (the cars were obviously locked, so I couldn't touch the interior).   The outside, however, looks disjointed. There is just way too much going on up front, with the straked hood, the big chrome grille and the huge headlight assembly. The back end, meanwhile, looks like it was lifted from a Toyota Corolla.   Apparently, all of the effort was put into the front. The stylists ran out of ideas once they got beyond the front pillar.   Another browser was there in a 1995 Honda Accord LX sedan. What struck me was how much the Sebring resembles the Accord in profile, except that the Accord is a more coherent and balanced design.   The Chrysler marque needs a good follow-up to the 300, and this car isn't it. The 300 recalls the 1950s and 1960s, when the Chrysler marque still meant something.   It restored some luster to the Chrysler nameplate, which, like Buick, Pontiac and Mercury, has fallen on hard times. Unfortunately, there is nothing special about the Sebring...and in a few months it will compete directly with the Dodge Avenger. The Avenger is a better fit with the Dodge brand. The Sebring should at least have more presence, and a more coherent design.   And please, no four-cylinder Chryslers! Every Sebring on the lot but one had the four cylinder. Leave that market to Dodge!   There were several Jeep Compasses on the lot. From the side, it evokes the AMC Gremlin, with an upswept rear window and chopped off back end. I guess it will appeal to the people who have been yearing for the return of the old Gremlin-based Eagle cars. But what will Chrysler do after those 20 people buy one?   Overall, I'd say that Chrysler is in for rough sledding over the next year.
#15 of 464 Shoot... by lemko Nov 21, 2006 (5:42 am)
...Chrysler has GOT to build that Imperial. If the 300 is the poor man's Bentley, the Imperial could be the poor man's Rolls-Royce Phantom. They'd go over big in Philly! Heck, I might just get one in a funky dark red enamel and silver metallic to recall my awesome 1985 Chrysler Fifth Avenue. Replies to this message: rockylee (Nov 21, 2006 5:13 pm)
#16 of 464 A few days ago... by andre1969 Nov 21, 2006 (12:46 pm)
I saw an '07 Sebring in the parking lot at the grocery store. I have to admit that it was better looking in person than in pictures, but it still does nothing for me.   I'm also a little confused at their engine choices. Standard is a 2.4 4-cyl with something like 172 hp. Next up is a 2.7 DOHC V-6 that used to put out 200 hp, but nowadays I think it choked down to 190. Then at the top of the heap is a 3.5 SOHC which puts out 250 hp in the Charger/300, but I think it might be a bit less here.   Why the need for the midrange engine? Especially one that's not that big of a step up from the base engine. Honestly I think they should phase out the 2.7. Even though I have that engine in my 2000 Intrepid and I haven't had any problems with mine (125,000 miles, knock on wood), they are prone to sludging. And they're VERY expensive to replace when they go bad. They're also VERY expensive to build new, in the first place. I think Chrysler would be better off just dumping it and if they need a lower-output V-6, just de-tune the 3.5, or offer a smaller-displacement version of it. The 3.2 that Chrysler offered from 1998-2001 in the Intrepid/Concorde was a smaller-displacement version.   And yeah, Chrysler should stop making 4-cylinder versions. Definitely. IMO, a 4-cylinder Chrysler is a Plymouth!
#17 of 464 Re: Shoot... [lemko] by rockylee Nov 21, 2006 (5:13 pm)
Replying to: lemko (Nov 21, 2006 5:42 am) I agree Chrysler needs to build the Imperial, but it has to have the Gadgetology, for somebody like me to look at it seriously.   Rocky
#18 of 464 DCX seeks car to import by rockylee Nov 21, 2006 (11:09 pm)
Analyst: Building small car in China would jolt UAW   http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061118/AUTO01/611180365/- 1148/AUTO01   Rocky   P.S. Well it appears I will have to "BLACK BALL" Chrysler in the future.
#19 of 464 Chrysler gives peek at new concept cars by rockylee Nov 21, 2006 (11:31 pm)
http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061121/UPDATE/611210447/- 1148/AUTO01   Rocky

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