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Automotive News & Views Can Chrysler Turn It Around in Bankruptcy?
464 messages, Last post on Oct 02, 2009 at 2:05 PM
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 27, 2009 7:54 am) |
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jul 27, 2009 8:21 am) About whatI would get from 3 vehicles that I owned in the 80's - an Escort, a Sentra, and a CRX. It's not that great when you realize that that sort of mileage was possible was from engine and transmission technology of 30 years ago. I agree with gagrice - if Chrysler/Fiat comes here with small relatively expensive cars, that get 37mpg or so, they won't be a big hit. In order to really succeed they are going to need to offer something exceptional. If I wanted to buy a premium small car, I'd get a Mini; if I wanted low price and high mpg I'd get a Ford Fiesta, Hyundai, Nissan Versa or Honda Fit.
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Replying to: kernick (Jul 27, 2009 8:36 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jul 27, 2009 9:45 am) |
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jul 27, 2009 9:45 am) If I have a choice between a $10K Versa getting 32mpg combined (or whatever) against an unknown Fiat at 37mpg and what price, I'd choose the Versa. If Fiat/Chrysler wants to make a hit and differentiate itself, it better bring something to market that's very inexpensive and gets 25+% better mpg than anything in it's non-hybrid class. I'd say it needs to sell its ultra-high mpg diesel, or stay home with this model. Otherwise this small car is just another "me-too", and maybe with a higher price tag because of the high union labor. |
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jul 27, 2009 8:21 am) |
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that depending on your POV, the Fiats will have something besides fuel economy going for them: looks. The Japanese, bless their reliable efficient hearts, can't manage to produce anything with great styling, EVER. Ditto the Koreans, although the Genesis coupe is a step in the right direction.
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 27, 2009 12:00 pm)  The Yaris and Fit are butt ugly. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 27, 2009 12:00 pm) |
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I think one of the main things that will be a problem for Chrysler and it's been pointed out here before is that many of Chrysler's models are outdated and there are no replacements coming soon. Chrysler will be forced to discontinue some of these old models or the sales will be minimal. In the meantime Fiat has a few models that can appear within a few years. In the meantime then Chrysler continues to bleed maybe $1B for each of the next 24 months? and then some Fiats are going to come along ... well the math just isn't good unless Chrysler can then sell say 2 million Fiats a year at MSRP. I'm not keeping up on all the finances and who's paying the bills and exactly what they are, but someone will be paying a lot of money to keep Chrysler around, just so a few new models can be sold here in the U.S. Meanwhile you can figure in 2 years that most of the existing Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep models are history in the marketplace.
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