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Automotive News & Views Can Chrysler Turn It Around in Bankruptcy?
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Replying to: nortsr1 (Jul 02, 2009 5:58 am) http://www.entretien-auto.com/fiabilite_cout_entretien.php Obviously, they forgot "Subaru" known to have 0% return for repair. It wouldn't look good on their plot! 1st: Toyota 4.8% 2nd: Mazda 5.8% 3rd: Honda 6.2% Suzuki 8.2% Hyndai 8.2% BMW 9.3% Volvo 9.4% Nissan 9.6% Saab 10% Skoda 10.1% Ford 11.1% Audi 11.1% Mercedes 11.4% Citroen 11.4% Mitsubishi 11.4% Alfa Romeo 11.7% Kia 11.8% Peugeot 12.2% Jeep 12.4% Renault 13.1% Opel 13.2% Volkswagen 13.3% Daewoo 13.7% Chrysler 14.3% Seat 14.3% Lancia 14.6% Fiat 15% Rover 16.1% Land Rover 19.7% Fiat is known to have frequent problems repairable at low cost. This is true when you live over here and you are 5 miles from away from the garage 
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Replying to: caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 12:06 am) One of these lists can be weighed in favor of whoever the list makes wants to.Then which model has the most problems? They are hardly all the same.A four wheel drive SUV will not have the same issues as a small 4 door sedan.A vehicle with a 4 cylinder engine might have different issues than a V6 or a V8...An automatic has different issues than a manual transmission equipped sports car.In other words,it really gives very little useful information.
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Replying to: caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 12:06 am) 
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jul 09, 2009 4:57 am) In the EU, most issues on mid-cost models concern cheap materials and assembly, the higher end issues concern technology. The whole spectrum of vehicles has mechanically reliable safety elements, the higher end also includes reliable engines and transmissions. Those who buy the first 3 makes have a high probability of never going for repair, those who fall between 5 and 10% expect an issue, the rest have an explanation to why they bought their specific vehicle. Most people are in the 3rd case and don't complain: there is no class action here nor any equivalent to the lemon law. You simply have to pay. There is a simple saying: if you receive an incentive/rebate when you buy a vehicle, you pay it back with high interest. The first 3 makes don't buy their customers, whatever model you choose. Engine and transmission rebuilding is no longer profitable here, SUVs are integrated in the mass with sedans and sport cars because of speed limitations. Those who practice off-road activities pay more attention to their vehicles because this is a passion and thus do preventive maintenance. I hope this gives you a clearer view about the way the comparison was made. Parcel postage service is increasing; this should give you a clue 
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Replying to: nortsr1 (Jul 09, 2009 6:33 am) |
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couldn't get any worse, it's already the pits. So Fiat has nowhere to go but up. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 02, 2009 5:36 am) 1.2 (Pur02 version) is around 38 MPG US combined (es. BMW 335i is 20 MPG), 1.3 TDiesel is 43,5 MPG combined. In 2010 there will be the new engine "SGE" 900cc with Multiair and an evolution of the Multijet diesel engine (with a Start/Stop system(the Pur02 actual version)... around 54 MPG) The 500 prototypes with the new gasoline engine (Turbo with 70hp) are around 53,7 MPG US Combined (3,4 l for 100km in the "optimistic" European omologation trip)! http://www.autobild.de%2Fartikel%2Ferste-fahrt-mit-fiat-multiair_923741.html http://www.fptmultiair.com |
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| I suspect that as 2010 models appear, Chrysler will rely heavily on Jeep branded vehicles for sales volume, and as Fiat enters the picture, it will be at low initial volume. The marketplace will guide the company. Don't forget that Fiat owns Alpha Romeo. And Fiat has many vehicles to offer that far exceed the meager size and power of the "500". I'm looking forward to the entire process unfolding a menu of new alternatives to the current offerings in the American market. | |
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In the North America marketplace in 2011 there will be only 3 cars with an italian brand (Ferrari and Maserati is another target) - Fiat 500 ("Small" platform) - Alfa Romeo Mito ("B-Evo") - Alfa Romeo "940 project" ("C-Evo") There will be a little suv, Jeep "Panda" ("Small"), clone of the Fiat Panda 4x4 Cross. In 2012: - Alfa Romeo "944 project" ("D-Evo"), station wagon version from 2013 - Alfa Romeo "new Brera" ("D-Evo") - Alfa Romeo new Spider ("D-Evo") - Fiat new Punto ("B-Evo") These cars are confirmed in the project plan of the group and will be made in north america, in the Chrysler factories. These 4 platforms are the base of the new versions of actual Dodge, Chrysler and Jeep cars and the new small-size cars with american brand. Alfa Romeo probably will construct 3 more cars: a little suv (size of BMW X1 on "C-Evo" platform), a big sedan (like Mercedes E-class, on "LX" platform (300C)) and a Big SUV ("2011 Jeep Gran Cherokee Platform"). The marketplace will guide the company, ok, Fiat has many other small cars in european market that could be good for US marketplace, and has another brand "Lancia" with other models.
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Replying to: iuliuscaesar (Jul 27, 2009 1:36 am)
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