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#423 of 464 Re: steve... [andre1969] by berri Jul 07, 2009 (9:46 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 07, 2009 7:08 am) still know the "Fix It Again Tomorrow/Tony/Twice/Thrice" jokes!   and don't forget "fix it all the time"!
#424 of 464 Re: What about quality??? [nortsr1] by caribou1 Jul 09, 2009 (12:06 am)
Replying to: nortsr1 (Jul 02, 2009 5:58 am) The answer to automobile quality in France is expressed in % of return for repair: http://www.entretien-auto.com/fiabilite_cout_entretien.php   Obviously, they forgot "Subaru" known to have 0% return for repair. It wouldn't look good on their plot!   1st: Toyota 4.8% 2nd: Mazda 5.8% 3rd: Honda 6.2% Suzuki 8.2% Hyndai 8.2% BMW 9.3% Volvo 9.4% Nissan 9.6% Saab 10% Skoda 10.1% Ford 11.1% Audi 11.1% Mercedes 11.4% Citroen 11.4% Mitsubishi 11.4% Alfa Romeo 11.7% Kia 11.8% Peugeot 12.2% Jeep 12.4% Renault 13.1% Opel 13.2% Volkswagen 13.3% Daewoo 13.7% Chrysler 14.3% Seat 14.3% Lancia 14.6% Fiat 15% Rover 16.1% Land Rover 19.7%   Fiat is known to have frequent problems repairable at low cost. This is true when you live over here and you are 5 miles from away from the garage Replies to this message: mickeyrom (Jul 09, 2009 4:57 am) caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 6:44 am) nortsr1 (Jul 09, 2009 6:33 am) caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 6:57 am)
#425 of 464 Re: What about quality??? [caribou] by mickeyrom Jul 09, 2009 (4:57 am)
Replying to: caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 12:06 am) That is a pretty interesting list,but really does not mean very much.Does it mean returning one time for a minor problem,multiple returns,major problems...or what? One of these lists can be weighed in favor of whoever the list makes wants to.Then which model has the most problems? They are hardly all the same.A four wheel drive SUV will not have the same issues as a small 4 door sedan.A vehicle with a 4 cylinder engine might have different issues than a V6 or a V8...An automatic has different issues than a manual transmission equipped sports car.In other words,it really gives very little useful information. Replies to this message: caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 6:44 am)
#426 of 464 Re: What about quality??? [caribou1] by nortsr1 Jul 09, 2009 (6:33 am)
Replying to: caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 12:06 am) I see (from your list) that Fiat is way down near the bottom. It also ranks at the bottom in England. (and we are getting Fiats to replace or mingle with Chrysler)??? Replies to this message: caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 6:57 am)
#427 of 464 Re: What about quality??? [mickeyrom] by caribou1 Jul 09, 2009 (6:44 am)
Replying to: mickeyrom (Jul 09, 2009 4:57 am) Hi mickeyrom, In the EU, most issues on mid-cost models concern cheap materials and assembly, the higher end issues concern technology. The whole spectrum of vehicles has mechanically reliable safety elements, the higher end also includes reliable engines and transmissions.   Those who buy the first 3 makes have a high probability of never going for repair, those who fall between 5 and 10% expect an issue, the rest have an explanation to why they bought their specific vehicle. Most people are in the 3rd case and don't complain: there is no class action here nor any equivalent to the lemon law. You simply have to pay. There is a simple saying: if you receive an incentive/rebate when you buy a vehicle, you pay it back with high interest. The first 3 makes don't buy their customers, whatever model you choose.   Engine and transmission rebuilding is no longer profitable here, SUVs are integrated in the mass with sedans and sport cars because of speed limitations. Those who practice off-road activities pay more attention to their vehicles because this is a passion and thus do preventive maintenance.   I hope this gives you a clearer view about the way the comparison was made. Parcel postage service is increasing; this should give you a clue
#428 of 464 Re: What about quality??? [nortsr1] by caribou1 Jul 09, 2009 (6:57 am)
Replying to: nortsr1 (Jul 09, 2009 6:33 am) The difference between Chrysler and Fiat is less than loosing one eye instead of the two.
#429 of 464 Frankly, Reliability of Chrysler by andres3 Jul 09, 2009 (9:40 am)
couldn't get any worse, it's already the pits.   So Fiat has nowhere to go but up.
#430 of 464 500 mpg by iuliuscaesar Jul 23, 2009 (4:10 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jul 02, 2009 5:36 am) The actual Fiat 500 has 3 engines; 1.2, 1.4 and 1.3 Turbodiesel (69, 100 and 75hp) 1.2 (Pur02 version) is around 38 MPG US combined (es. BMW 335i is 20 MPG), 1.3 TDiesel is 43,5 MPG combined. In 2010 there will be the new engine "SGE" 900cc with Multiair and an evolution of the Multijet diesel engine (with a Start/Stop system(the Pur02 actual version)... around 54 MPG) The 500 prototypes with the new gasoline engine (Turbo with 70hp) are around 53,7 MPG US Combined (3,4 l for 100km in the "optimistic" European omologation trip)!   http://www.autobild.de%2Fartikel%2Ferste-fahrt-mit-fiat-multiair_923741.html http://www.fptmultiair.com
#431 of 464 Alpha and more by wtd44 Jul 25, 2009 (7:21 am)
I suspect that as 2010 models appear, Chrysler will rely heavily on Jeep branded vehicles for sales volume, and as Fiat enters the picture, it will be at low initial volume. The marketplace will guide the company. Don't forget that Fiat owns Alpha Romeo. And Fiat has many vehicles to offer that far exceed the meager size and power of the "500". I'm looking forward to the entire process unfolding a menu of new alternatives to the current offerings in the American market.

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