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#417 of 464 Re: steve... [iluvmysephia1] by colloquor Jul 07, 2009 (3:42 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jul 02, 2009 12:21 pm) I just spent a weekend at a trade show, and we took out one of our fellow exhibitors' sales reps to dinner. They represent an Italian company, and the dinner discussion inevitably drifted to cars. Both of the Italian gentlemen said they'd never drive a FIAT. Although I surmise that FIAT has to have improved their quality over that of their '60s and '70s offerings in the USA, one wonders. The '60s products would almost rust right before your eyes, but then again, so did others. Replies to this message: mickeyrom (Jul 07, 2009 5:26 am) gagrice (Jul 07, 2009 6:27 am)
#418 of 464 Re: steve... [colloquor] by mickeyrom Jul 07, 2009 (5:26 am)
Replying to: colloquor (Jul 07, 2009 3:42 am) How good were the Japanese first generation imports? Same with the Korean imports.It's another story now,isn't it?
#419 of 464 Re: steve... [colloquor] by gagrice Jul 07, 2009 (6:27 am)
Replying to: colloquor (Jul 07, 2009 3:42 am) Being Italian they probably prefer the cars with names that end in I.   Maserati, Ferrari or Lamborghini.
#420 of 464 Re: steve... [iluvmysephia1] by andre1969 Jul 07, 2009 (7:08 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jul 02, 2009 12:21 pm) yep, I think a whole lot of Americans are concerned about Fiat quality build. Those of us interested will check in to it as best we can and then report on it. Eh?   Heck, I know people who weren't even born when Fiat finally left our shores, who still know the "Fix It Again Tomorrow/Tony/Twice/Thrice" jokes! So IMO, Fiat will have a bit of a quality perception to overcome. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 07, 2009 7:31 am) berri (Jul 07, 2009 9:46 am)
#421 of 464 Re: steve... [andre1969] by gagrice Jul 07, 2009 (7:31 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 07, 2009 7:08 am) Even if they re-badge them as Chrysler's they will have a reliability image to over come. Though the Dodge Cummins PU is still arguably the best out there.
#423 of 464 Re: steve... [andre1969] by berri Jul 07, 2009 (9:46 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 07, 2009 7:08 am) still know the "Fix It Again Tomorrow/Tony/Twice/Thrice" jokes!   and don't forget "fix it all the time"!
#424 of 464 Re: What about quality??? [nortsr1] by caribou1 Jul 09, 2009 (12:06 am)
Replying to: nortsr1 (Jul 02, 2009 5:58 am) The answer to automobile quality in France is expressed in % of return for repair: http://www.entretien-auto.com/fiabilite_cout_entretien.php   Obviously, they forgot "Subaru" known to have 0% return for repair. It wouldn't look good on their plot!   1st: Toyota 4.8% 2nd: Mazda 5.8% 3rd: Honda 6.2% Suzuki 8.2% Hyndai 8.2% BMW 9.3% Volvo 9.4% Nissan 9.6% Saab 10% Skoda 10.1% Ford 11.1% Audi 11.1% Mercedes 11.4% Citroen 11.4% Mitsubishi 11.4% Alfa Romeo 11.7% Kia 11.8% Peugeot 12.2% Jeep 12.4% Renault 13.1% Opel 13.2% Volkswagen 13.3% Daewoo 13.7% Chrysler 14.3% Seat 14.3% Lancia 14.6% Fiat 15% Rover 16.1% Land Rover 19.7%   Fiat is known to have frequent problems repairable at low cost. This is true when you live over here and you are 5 miles from away from the garage Replies to this message: mickeyrom (Jul 09, 2009 4:57 am) caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 6:44 am) nortsr1 (Jul 09, 2009 6:33 am) caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 6:57 am)
#425 of 464 Re: What about quality??? [caribou] by mickeyrom Jul 09, 2009 (4:57 am)
Replying to: caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 12:06 am) That is a pretty interesting list,but really does not mean very much.Does it mean returning one time for a minor problem,multiple returns,major problems...or what? One of these lists can be weighed in favor of whoever the list makes wants to.Then which model has the most problems? They are hardly all the same.A four wheel drive SUV will not have the same issues as a small 4 door sedan.A vehicle with a 4 cylinder engine might have different issues than a V6 or a V8...An automatic has different issues than a manual transmission equipped sports car.In other words,it really gives very little useful information. Replies to this message: caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 6:44 am)
#426 of 464 Re: What about quality??? [caribou1] by nortsr1 Jul 09, 2009 (6:33 am)
Replying to: caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 12:06 am) I see (from your list) that Fiat is way down near the bottom. It also ranks at the bottom in England. (and we are getting Fiats to replace or mingle with Chrysler)??? Replies to this message: caribou1 (Jul 09, 2009 6:57 am)

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