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Can Chrysler Turn It Around in Bankruptcy?

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Re: Engine problems and valve seat issues [krecker] by mickeyrom
Oct 27, 2008 (4:43 am)
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Replying to: krecker (Oct 26, 2008 5:32 am)

Do you think that Chrysler will go the way of Studebaker,AMC and Hudson? So what do you think would happen to that lifetime power train warranty that recent purchasers were promised?
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Re: Cab Forward [hpmctorque] by andre1969
Oct 27, 2008 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Oct 18, 2008 6:56 am)

In my opinion, the only thing that "Cab Forward" really gave you was a huge dashboard and huge rear package shelf, and sharply sloping windows that would make both impossible to clean. It might have made the cars look sleek and futuristic, but I don't think it really did anything for interior room. That was the wheelbase, pure and simple.
 
I was always impressed with the amount of legroom that the Neon had in it. However, the first-gen model was on a 104" wheelbase, and 105" for the second. Just for comparison, some midsized cars were in range of that. The Chevy Celebrity was 104.9". The "small" Ford LTD/Mercury Grand Marquis was 105.6". And Mopar's own Dodge Dynasty/Chrysler New Yorker was only 104.3". The older Dodge 600/Chrysler E-class/New Yorker/Plymouth Caravelle, also a fairly roomy car, was only 103.3"! I think the first Ford Taurus was around 106".
 
Similarly, the Dodge Stratus/Chrysler Sebring/et al sedans were decently roomy. I think their wheelbase was around 108". My old 1980 Malibu, with a 108.1" wheelbase, was about as roomy inside, and it was a coupe. The sedan was a bit roomier.
 
My 2000 Intrepid's wheelbase is 113". That car replaced a 1989 Gran Fury I had, a box on wheels if ever there was one. The Gran Fury dated back to the 1976 Volare, wasn't exactly the ultimate in space efficiency (decent for 1976, but NOT 1989!), and rode a 112.7" wheelbase, yet I swear it was roomier inside than the Intrepid. Maybe a little tighter in the back, but it more than made up for it up front! The only thing I really hated about that Gran Fury was the steering wheel location. Too close to my chest. And it had an airbag, so I'd hate to think of some little old 5'2" lady driving one and getting into an accident!
 
It's kinda funny how Chrysler has a knack for making cars that look nice and futuristic but fall apart, or are somewhat conservative and stodgy but last forever. Too bad they couldn't strike a balance somewhere!
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Re: Cab Forward [andre1969] by lemko
Oct 27, 2008 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 27, 2008 5:59 am)

1957 Forward Look Styling + 1949-54 Briggs Body Quality = Perfection
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Chrysler/GM merger by carolinabob
Oct 29, 2008 (6:02 am)
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If GM takes over Chrysler, would it be likely that within five years, Chrysler disappears in favor of Buick, Dodge disappears in favor of Pontiac and Chevy/GMC trucks?
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Re: Chrysler/GM merger [carolinabob] by dtownfb
Oct 29, 2008 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Oct 29, 2008 6:02 am)

Your guess is as good as anyone else's. Some are talking a merger of products; some are predicting eliminating all of Chrysler except Jeep and the minivans; and recent talks discuss more of a slow death like you are alluding to. I think all is on the table and depends on if the government hands them over $10B. You'll probably hear more in the next few days as Cerebus seems eager to get this done before the election.
 
I can't see the government supporting this merger if it means eliminating 40,000 jobs which some analysts are predicting. That makes absolutely no sense to use tax dollars to support job elimination. Let the companies go bankrupt and then help the workers with that $10B.
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Chrysler, are you kidding me? by nippononly
Oct 29, 2008 (6:51 pm)
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Chrysler will pull plug on hybrid Aspen, Durango
 
Chrysler LLC will stop producing its first two hybrid-electric vehicles slightly more than two months after they started arriving in dealerships.
 
This summer, Chrysler introduced the Chrysler Aspen and Dodge Durango Hemi hybrid SUVs to great fanfare. Production began in August. But the two were doomed to a short lifespan from the beginning. They are made at Chrysler's Newark, Del., plant, originally scheduled to close at the end of 2009.
 
But slow full-sized SUV sales pushed Chrysler to move the closing up a year. The company announced last week it will close Newark at the end of this year. Chrysler has no plans to produce the hybrid SUVs elsewhere, said spokesman Todd Goyer.

 
They talk about producing a hybrid Dodge Ram in 2010, and promise that "more hybrids are coming", but it's all just spitting in the wind. There isn't a chance the current management team will still be running this company in two years, and there's a fair chance Dodge won't be around at all...
 
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081029/FREE/810299993/1528/- newsletter01
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the latest dancing partner by steve_ HOST
Nov 08, 2008 (10:16 am)
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Chrysler and Hyundai?
 
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Re: the latest dancing partner (steve_ HOST) by hpmctorque
Nov 08, 2008 (10:36 am)
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"Hyundai denies interest in Chrysler's assets
 
By MarketWatch
Last update: 10:31 a.m. EST Nov. 8, 2008Comments: 7
SEOUL (MarketWatch)
 
Hyundai denied on Saturday a wire service report that it has been in talks with Cerberus Capital Management LP about buying Jeep or other assets from Chrysler LLC.
  
A Hyundai Motor spokeswoman said the carmaker isn't considering acquiring Chrysler's Jeep brand and other assets because it is focusing on completing its overseas plant construction. 'We have little room for acquisition of an overseas company such as Chrysler,' said the spokeswoman.
 
Citing people with knowledge of the discussions, Reuters reported Friday that Cerberus is looking to renew talks with other potential bidders like Renault SA (and Nissan Motor Co."
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Re: the latest dancing partner (steve_ HOST) [hpmctorque] by steve_ HOST
Nov 08, 2008 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 08, 2008 10:36 am)

Hyundai denies interest in Chrysler's assets
 
Must be a done deal eh?
 
I'm not going to be too shocked to see a headline like "Apple and Chrysler?"
 
Toss in Ford's Sync tie-up with Microsoft and all that will be left to do is for Google to buy GM.
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Re: the latest dancing partner (steve_ HOST) [steve_] by fintail
Nov 08, 2008 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 08, 2008 10:48 am)

I think Enterprise, Budget etc should buy Chrysler, and then they can make their own cars to their own specs - they must be the primary customers anyway.

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