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Can Chrysler Turn It Around in Bankruptcy?

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I Agree by jchan2
Oct 17, 2008 (7:12 pm)
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That the Pacifica was and still is a very classy car (if equipped correctly) and that the interior is actually pretty decent, especially in light of the Sebring, Avenger, Caliber, Compass, etc.
The Pacifica was an excellent concept, design, and execution, only there should have been a 7 passenger model at the beginning (and there still isn't) and the car was priced to fail. (I remember pricing out 2004-2005 Pacificas and seeing some of them reach up into the upper $30K range, even low $40s). The Pacifica also would have benefited by having the 4.0L at the beginning of production instead of halfway through...
 
I saw Pacificas advertised in the local paper starting at around $16K... A pretty decent car for the price...
 
The Pacifica was an almost-premium car priced like a premium car under a brand nobody regarded as premium. A classic example of how price can sometimes kill a well-conceived product before it even hits the marketplace...
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Re: I messed up spelling Chrysler(can't fix it> tried!) [myershift] by mickeyrom
Oct 18, 2008 (5:06 am)
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Replying to: myershift (Oct 16, 2008 12:18 pm)

I hate sounding stupid,but exactly what is "cab-forward" ?
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Re: I messed up spelling Chrysler (mickeyrom) by hpmctorque
Oct 18, 2008 (6:18 am)
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"I hate sounding stupid,but..."
 
You ask a logical question. Here's my understanding of "cab forward": It's a term, although not necessarily a concept applied by Chrysler Corp. to the design of its all-new '93 Chrysler Concord, Eagle Vision, and Dodge Intrepid front wheel drive large cars. In contrast to a relatively long hood and short rear deck design, or a normal length hood and rear deck, the cab forward design attempted to maximize passenger space, especially, and also trunk space, by featuring a relatively short hood and a steeply sloping windshield. I believe another feature of this design was to make track wider, relative to the width of the car. Chrysler's cab forward '93 cars were notably larger and, arguably sleeker than previous ground breaking FWD designs, such as the first and second generation ('87-'91 and '92-'95) Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable
 
I think the use of the cab forward term had as much to do with marketing as with configuration, because one could argue that the Honda Accords and Civics of the mid-late '80s and early '90s featured similar design language, but Honda didn't employ the cab forward term to their styling.
 
For all the many quality issues that plagued the domestic models of the '80s and '90s, many featured innovative styling (eg. GM's '85 large bodies, Ford's '83 T-bird and '87 Taurus, and Chrysler's Cab Forward and '95 "Cloud Cars" [Chrysler Cirrus and Dodge Stratus]).
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Re: I messed up spelling Chrysler (mickeyrom) [hpmctorque] by steve_ HOST
Oct 18, 2008 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Oct 18, 2008 6:18 am)

There's a pic of a car at this post that's the opposite of "cab forward."
 
boomchek, "Mystery car pix...." #18463, 27 Sep 2008 12:54 pm
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Cab Forward by hpmctorque
Oct 18, 2008 (6:56 am)
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I would add that I believe that "cab forward" was an attempt by Chrysler to transform itself from a manufacturer of stodgy K-cars and K-derivatives to a styling leader. After all, it had tried this three times before; in the '30s with the Airflow, in '55 with its "Forward Look" cars, and in '57, with its dramatically new fin-themed cars. Remember, the '93 cab forward, and '95 cloud cars and Neon were conceived when Lee Iacocca and Bob Lutz managed the company, and these guys were not averse to risk.
 
Ahh, if only the quality and reliability of Chrysler's cab forward cars was as good as the styling...
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so now by nippononly
Oct 24, 2008 (5:01 pm)
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Chrysler is laying off 25% of its salaried workforce by the end of the year? That's not far off. Maybe pretty soon the whole company will just disappear - POOF!
 
On the bright side, I guess they have all the bidders they want in the sale of the Viper program.
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Engine problems and valve seat issues by krecker
Oct 26, 2008 (5:32 am)
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My Jeep Liberty just had a major engine problem. This does not appear to be isolated to only Jeeps engines. My Jeep had 82K miles. Dealership stated valve seat came loose putting a hole in the piston. This has been reported in ALLDATA reports recently yet the word is not getting out to the general public. A reliable friend of mine said carbon built up can't cause the resulting damage and there is a major manufacture flaw in the material they used. The resulting hole in the piston is a defect in the metal. There appears to be a trend here and the manufacturer is not saying anthing including a recall notice. Has anybody else had any Jeep engiines vakve replaced or major engine repairs. We only discovered this by demanding to see and take photos of the resulting problems and it was evident it was a manufacturer defect.
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Re: so now [nippononly] by skw0123
Oct 26, 2008 (11:12 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 24, 2008 5:01 pm)

I think Chrysler would be liquidated *tomorrow* if Cerberus Capital could find buyers for the pieces. Selling the company or any large part of it is out of the question; there are no interested buyers, and no investment capital even if there were.
 
Finding partners or trying to figure out how to run the company more cost effectively would be logical steps if this were 2006, but it is too late now.
 
My hunch is that we'll know a lot more by the North American International Auto Show.
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Re: Engine problems and valve seat issues [krecker] by mickeyrom
Oct 27, 2008 (4:43 am)
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Replying to: krecker (Oct 26, 2008 5:32 am)

Do you think that Chrysler will go the way of Studebaker,AMC and Hudson? So what do you think would happen to that lifetime power train warranty that recent purchasers were promised?

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