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Anyhow, here's the story. http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/11/10/028282.html This says the Top Execs have been warned. Seems Chrysler does this every few years(sort of like Nissan): have a few decent years, then sales go South for a few years. What gives here? One guy said all their cars look like trucks. Another said there stuff looks good, if it were 2001. Have heard various comments of cheap interiors( behind most competitors), lack of warranty(they did have a 7/100K, then dropped it a few years ago). GM even has, at least, 5/100K. Is it they depended too much on large vehicles to make money, and now that small cars sales are up, they are behind? One thing that is sort of odd, is that when the Caliber came out, "Dodge" said it was to replace the Neon. How? I know some younger kids(16-25, men and women) who are mad, and said the Caliber Does Not = Neon replacement(rumors are there will be something slightly smaller than the old Neon coming out, and a car-like vehicle?). What is Chrysler doing wrong, or right? I did look at the new Sebring, and in Blue, and in person, it was tolerable(unlike early internet photos). It beat the Aztek, at least. Anyhow, it was not bad, but MSRP is kind of "up there", for me, anyway.You can get a Fusion or Sonata for less, for example(I-4's). Maybe even a few others. Anyhow.... What can they do for a turn-around(for what seems like the 52nd time in 27 years). take care/not offense. |
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Replying to: harrychezt (Nov 11, 2006 6:23 pm)  Rocky |
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 12, 2006 1:04 am) I drove the Sebring and it was acceptable, but the grey interior, plastics, all of it, did not really seem like it belonged in a nearly 19K msrp car. Felt more like it should be in a cheaper car(well, some of the chepaer cars, around 14-15K, I have seen, have better interior materials, or looked better, at least). Same for the Caliber(and PT) I tested in March of this year. Also, the cloth seats on the PT were not very good, and hard as rocks.
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Replying to: harrychezt (Nov 11, 2006 6:23 pm) 
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from the looks of it, this thread won't be around very long anyhow.
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Replying to: harrychezt (Nov 13, 2006 8:35 pm) you and I both know Chryslers current management approach is killing them. They spend so much money on radical unique designs, and leave out interior quality, gadgetology, ergonomics. The plastics found in a Jeep compass are the same grade as my Uncles 1984 Ford Ranger. I honestly couldn't tell the difference. It's one thing to have a hard plasticky dash, but seriously a few hundred more dollars would help alot. Hell even if it costs you a grand or two, it's worth it to the customer and he/she still gets a good deal. The Chrysler 300C was the most over-rated car over the last few years. It has a decent exterior, but that's about it. The interior quality is no better than that found in the last generation 300M. In some ways I think the old M was better in design. Chrysler, thinks because they throw a Hemi engine in it with a few leftover Mercedes parts they were going fly off the shelf. Well they did for a couple of years. Chrysler is in serious trouble and their new products are going to save the day IMHO. The Sebring, is another rental special with a lack-luster engine, The new Avenger isn't all that exciting, the Nitro, Compass, Patriot, are nothing special either. What the heck is up with that 4 door deep ? My gawd that beast is ugly. The PT Cruiser, is old and tired and DCX let that car flounder. I guess they were to worried about making a SLR McLaren, instead of concentrating on its core business and buyers. The last good car that Chrysler ever had IMHO was the Dodge Stealth which of course was a rebadged Mitsubishi. I've never been much of a fan of chrysler cars, not because I never wanted to be but because they try to be radical. It took me a decade to finally warm up to the Rams grill. I still prefer Fords and GM's grills better. The trucks are pretty much worthless and the only thing that saves that division is the over-hyped old men still like the out-dated Cummins, which has been surpassed in technology by GM's Duramax, and Ford's Powerstroke. Hell Ford, owns part of cummins, lol.  The Hemi is a good engine if you like getting 12-14 mpg. what a joke  Well I'll stop my rant, since I know their are a few loyalist. Hopefully that 'tinament' on wheels called SMART will save the company. Well that's if our government stops the carbon copy cheaper Chin-E smart from gobbling up sales first. Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 13, 2006 9:05 pm) I agree 100%. I would pay alittle extra for better materials. That Smart? I dunno what they are thinking. The thing is barely over 8 feet, total length! Most cars have wheelbases that long, even some of the sub-compacts. That's one scarey(hit a deer with this thing... no thanks), over-priced vehicle. I looked at a G5, and it had a nicer looking interior.
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Replying to: harrychezt (Nov 14, 2006 7:45 pm) |
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Replying to: harrychezt (Nov 12, 2006 6:54 pm) Which Sebring did you drive the 07 or the 01-06 model? I did see the 07 Sebring at an auto show a couple weeks ago. Dissapointing on the interior because it was cheap like you said. When you touch the plastic it feels hard as did the 05 Pacifica's interior plastics at an auto show I went to in Feburary. The Pacifica was an 05 leftover and the MSRP was somewhere in the 34K range but they were willing to sell it for somewhere in the 27K range. That what the sticker in the window of the Pacifica said at that particular autoshow. Another thing is a Chrysler isn't even reliable as a Ford. |
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