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Re: 18 LTZ rims came on a LT 08 Mailibu 4 cylinder [rw08malibu] by busiris
Apr 27, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: rw08malibu (Apr 27, 2008 5:21 pm)

You neglected to list the tire pecs of the 18" wheels.
 
Usually, the increased wheel size is offset by a lower ratio tire, giving the outside diameter the same dimension. If that is the case, then technically there is no difference, and assuming the same weight between the 2 wheel types, there shouldn't be a noticable difference in MPG or speedo accuracy.
 
Hope that helps...
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Re: 18 LTZ rims came on a LT 08 Mailibu 4 cylinder [busiris] by jaxs1
Apr 27, 2008 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: busiris (Apr 27, 2008 6:07 pm)

The ride gets a bit bumpier though because these thinner tires provide less cushioning to the road. They usually end up having lower tread life also and cost more, so replacements will get expensive over time.
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Re: 18 LTZ rims came on a LT 08 Mailibu 4 cylinder [busiris] by rw08malibu
Apr 27, 2008 (6:43 pm)
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Replying to: busiris (Apr 27, 2008 6:07 pm)

Thanks for your reply. The tire specs of the 18" wheels are 225/50 18, and the car had 225/50 17 from the factory. Any advice is appreciated.
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Re: 18 LTZ rims came on a LT 08 Mailibu 4 cylinder [rw08malibu] by busiris
Apr 27, 2008 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: rw08malibu (Apr 27, 2008 6:43 pm)

The tire specs of the 18" wheels are 225/50 18, and the car had 225/50 17 from the factory.
 
That's a potential issue...The 225 is the width of the tire in Millimeters, and the 50 is the % ratio of width to height. So, with no other modofications, expect the speedo to be off a bit.
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Re: 18 LTZ rims came on a LT 08 Mailibu 4 cylinder [busiris] by rw08malibu
Apr 27, 2008 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: busiris (Apr 27, 2008 6:48 pm)

I guess I should visit my local dealer to see if they can re-calibrate my odometer. Any guess on fuel mileage differences between the two wheel sizes, given that the tire specs are the same?
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Re: 18 LTZ rims came on a LT 08 Mailibu 4 cylinder [rw08malibu] by busiris
Apr 27, 2008 (9:05 pm)
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Replying to: rw08malibu (Apr 27, 2008 7:12 pm)

Try this before going to the dealer...have someone ride with you in the car and get on the interstate highway. As you travel down the highway, have the passenger tell you exactly when you pass a mile marker...note the mileage on the odometer. Travel a few miles, I suggest 5, and when you reach the 5th mile marker, repeat the process. Note the odometer readings at the beginning and the end, and write them down.
 
Now, do this 4 or 5 times to have several samples.
 
Now you have enough information to tell you how "off" the odometer actually is, as well as calculate the speed differential between actual speed at, say 60 mph .vs. what is shown on the spedometer.
 
Be aware, though, that it isn't unusual for new cars with everything original to have a variance. The last GM vehicle I had (2005 Aveo) was actually 5-6 mph off at 60 mph. I read several comments about that on the Aveo, but I have no idea how widespread it is on other vehicles, other than I do know it is fairly common.
 
To answer your original question, you can take this information with you to the dealer to help substantiate your complaint, assuming you find a significant difference between actual and reported mileage. I don't think there is an accurate way to estimate the mpg difference, other than trying the same vehicle, driver, and location using both sets of wheels/tires .
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Re: 18 LTZ rims came on a LT 08 Mailibu 4 cylinder [busiris] by rw08malibu
Apr 28, 2008 (3:37 am)
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Replying to: busiris (Apr 27, 2008 9:05 pm)

Duly noted, and many thanks.
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Re: 18 LTZ rims came on a LT 08 Mailibu 4 cylinder [busiris] by jaxs1
Apr 28, 2008 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: busiris (Apr 27, 2008 9:05 pm)

You cannot count on mile markers being 100% accurate. Some were measured using old trucks that may not have been totally precise at the time.
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RPM at 65-70MPH by mazda6dude
Apr 28, 2008 (7:00 am)
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Does anyone know what is RPM on a 4 cylinder Malibu model at 65-70MPH? Thanks.
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Re: 18 LTZ rims came on a LT 08 Mailibu 4 cylinder [rw08malibu] by beach15
Apr 28, 2008 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: rw08malibu (Apr 27, 2008 5:21 pm)

I've seen this on a random LT too, that was used.
 
That said...yes...your speedo, odometer, etc. are all going to be off. Using this calculator:
 
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp
 
There's an overall jump in diameter from the 225/50/17 to 225/50/18 (of course, as the wheel size is larger but the tire width & aspect ratio are the same), going from 25.85in to 26.85in, and effectively throwing off the speedo/odo to be 3.872% slow (or read 57.7 when going 60).
 
The way around this is to reprogram the main computer for the new, larger tire size, but that would require the dealer and their Tech 2 tool. Given that they offer 17" and 18" accessory wheels for the Malibu, regardless of model, the dealer should have the capacity to do this in the case that someone did want 18's on their LT. The difference is relatively big and needs to be taken care of, if they didn't already once the 18's were swapped on.

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