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#733 of 1514 Re: Test drive [rvoth]
Feb 04, 2008 (11:40 am)
For the Traverse, think of a largely GMC Acadia like center, with a more curved back end like the Buick Enclave, and then a Chevy nose and interior design very much like the new Malibu...and you have it.
It will start at a lower price than the other 3, but mainly because it will also have a full array of models (exactly like the Malibu). LS, 1LT, 2LT, and LTZ. The LS, of course, will be the one with the low pricetag.
GM actually already put all the details for it up on the dealer DealerWorld system, as a salesperson on another forum posted what's there about it. No prices, but the 4 trim levels, same FWD or AWD, as well as Bluetooth (likely an option) and cooled seats (again, an option, probably on the top trim level, in addition to typical heating).
The biggest change for the 2009 Lambda crossovers is that all will have the Direct-Injection version of the 3.6L V6 engine standard across the line. This is the "upgrade" engine this year for the new CTS and also STS, with more power and also less emissions and a bit more efficient. No power numbers yet, but we'll see soon enough when they reveal the Traverse in a few days. They shelved the development of the V8 that was projected to be intro'd on the Lambdas at some time, but another may be possible after a while...but really, with the power they can get out of the V6, it isn't necessary and will only hurt mileage.
So, yeah, the Traverse (and the other 3 Lambdas) are looking better for 2009...which seems almost impossible.
But, back to the Malibu
#734 of 1514 Getting Tired of same old Malibu Commercials
Feb 07, 2008 (11:07 am)
I wonder when new commecials will come out that show the fine Close UP Features of this car ?
#735 of 1514 Torque Steer with V-6
Feb 07, 2008 (5:27 pm)
I noticed considerable torque steer with the V-6 during two test drives recently. Once from a stop, and once doing about 45 mph. On both occasions, the tires also spun quite a bit. Have any owners experienced this, and is this something you get use to? Car and Driver in November 07 did mention "... heads straight to torque steer city when you tromp on the gas."
#736 of 1514 Re: Torque Steer with V-6 [gmfornow3]
Feb 07, 2008 (5:37 pm)
Probably would be best to control the gas pedal more if are stepping on it so hard that you are getting wheel spin.
#737 of 1514 Re: Torque Steer with V-6 [gmfornow3]
Feb 07, 2008 (5:58 pm)
There have been many comments, including on the Aura XR which is the same car "underneath" as a current Malibu LTZ with the 3.6L, both from general consumers and professionals. It tends to be a side effect of high power--not that there's a huge amount here, but still that's why--going through the front and same wheels that also do the turning. The goal is always to engineer it out.
BUT, that said, there were similar comments with the current V8 Impala SS which has a lot more grunt also through the front wheels, and that reviewers such as C&D again saying when they'd hit it, it would tug left, right, etc. They quoted having asked the GM engineers about it, who knew exactly what they were talking about, and said it actually wasn't torque steer because they had worked quite a while on that...but was actually a side effect of how the traction control kicked in, trying to get the traction to the best wheel it could. In a sense, doing that, it would create and/or add to the tugging feel.
With the Malibu, I think it is just torque steer, and nearly everyone has commented on it. It, of course, would be better if not there at all, but isn't something that turns into a daily bother...unless you make it a habit of constantly stomping on the accelerator excessively to roar from a stop and/or keep rolling like a freight train. Normal driving, with normal acceleration, it shouldn't be noticed much if at all.
#738 of 1514 We Bought an LS with Leather for $21K
Feb 09, 2008 (1:28 pm)
Well, we took the plunge and my wife bought a Malibu today. We shopped the Camry XLE, Honda Civic EXL, Acura TSX and the Malibu LTZ but ended up buying a Malibu LS. An LS? Yes, the base LS but with a twist.
First we test-drove the LT2, 4-cylinder. My wife loved it. Then we drove the LTZ. She loved it especially the two-tone leather. However, she did not see much of a difference in the cars to justify an $8,000 difference in price for the LTZ. Coming from a Volvo she wanted leatheróthe nice supple kind.
So after discussing it with the salesman we decided to buy the base LS and put in leather for an additional charge of $1,200. First, he said the after-market leather would cost $1,400 and further it would invalidate the warranty. But when we told him that the Toyota dealer would install the leather for $1,200 he went to his manager who said they could do it after all.
Bottom line, we are getting the top-of-line looks with better-than-factory installed leather for a fraction of the price. Here are the figures on the deal:
2008 Chevy Malibu LS
We offered $200 below invoice, plus leather $1,200 and administrative fee $349
for a total price of $20,959. We take delivery next Tuesday or Wednesday.
By the way, I noticed on the LTZ model in the showroom, that the rubber lining on the rear deck glass was beginning to separate. I brought it to the salesmanís attention but he brushed it off as inconsequential.
#739 of 1514 iPod Integration?
Feb 09, 2008 (5:26 pm)
Is there a dealer installed iPod adapter accessory available for the new Malibu that gives you control of the tracks on the iPod?
There is only an aux jack from the factory, the kit is already made for the HHR and the Malibu has that same compartment on top of the dash.
#740 of 1514 Re: iPod Integration? [jaxs1]
Feb 09, 2008 (7:39 pm)
That PAL integration kit will work on any of the current radios of that style...or at least a good chunk of them.
It hasn't really been advertised as available at all yet, but as you said, it is listed for the HHR and comes up on all of the various discount GM part sites.
Part #: 19171028
No guarantees, but the head units are the same across most of these GM vehicles, and it SHOULD work with a Malibu if you can actually get one. From other sites, I know of many people that have been waiting on it for other GM vehicles and still nothing...but I would at least venture to order the one with the HHR part # for now, and see if it plugs right into the Malibu. It should.
#741 of 1514 Re: Our new '08 Malibu 2LT 4-cyl [mazda6dude]
Feb 10, 2008 (10:31 am)
Hey mazda6dude - been reading your posts on the NAH, wondering why you are selling it. That is one of the cars on my to buy list, but since it's not sold in GA, have been looking at the Accord, Jetta/Passat, and now that I found out about the Malibu, considering a look. Also don't think the extra $5K is justified for the small increase in MPG that I'm reading about in NAH & TCH, especially for short commutes.
#742 of 1514 Re: Our new '08 Malibu 2LT 4-cyl [divewreck]
Feb 11, 2008 (8:07 am)
I havent decide to sell it yet. Still have it and driving it. The MPG is improving. I am getting above 36mpg. I have seen there is only one used NAH being sold.