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#191 of 1514 Re: Malibu thoughts... [ricksv70]
Jan 17, 2007 (5:55 am)
The next Impala due in 2009 will be RWD and based on the same platform as the Austrailan cars. The Pontiac G8 will be imported from Austrailia as soon as this year. GM will be bringing its foreign products here (Astra is coming as well) but you have to remember its much easier to sell great cars in Europe because they can charge a premium price for small and midsize cars over there. In America people expect small cars to be cheap and sparsely equipped. In Europe you can get fully loaded small cars and people will pay well for those cars. If the average GM midsize car had all the equipment available on Euro midsize cars you would have Chevys and Pontiacs costing as much as Acuras. Unfortunately, most buyers are not going to chose a mainstream GM brand over a luxury brand even if the GM cars were packed with navigation, 19" wheels, HIDS, etc. While the features on the Euro GM cars are impressive, I do not like the interior designs of the Opels and Vauxhalls at all. They are very dark, angular and bland. The material quality may be superior to their US counterparts, but the overall designs are too bland for this market. The interior fo the Aura looks much better than the Vectra.
#192 of 1514 Re: Malibu thoughts... [ricksv70]
Jan 17, 2007 (8:46 am)
As I stated above. Have an 05 Maxx and just bought a Kia LS (base car).
One real advantage to the 'Bu is it has a partial (and useful) power seat. Go up in either car and full power is standard. Most cars at the base end have a big lever on the side of the seat (ala Kia), or two dials to twist (more adjustments but tougher). Putting a partial power seat on a base car is a plus over the competition IMHO.
I'm sure the LTZ will have full power seating.
#193 of 1514 from a distance
Jan 17, 2007 (7:31 pm)
From a distance of a half a block, I thought I saw something which looked like the rear end of a new Malibu. Could this be a test vehicle? I circled around and caught up the car only to find out it was but a Suzuki Verona. Oh well, too many cars starting to look alike these days. The exterior up front may be better on the Malibu compared to the Aura, but the rear of the car is not too exciting. I do like the interior design. That may be the biggest plus for the Malibu vs. say the Aura or G6.
Anyway, what's a Matador, use to be the question. Now it is the Verona!
What a rare find; and not bad looking.
#194 of 1514 Re: from a distance [m1miata]
Jan 18, 2007 (8:17 pm)
These GMDAT (GM Daewoo Automotive Tech.) or Daewoo cloners (Suzuki Verona and the likes) are also called Chevrolets in other markets like EU and Asia. So don't be surprised if you see the name Chevrolet on the same car if travel to Europe. In this country (US), GM only imports one version of GMDAT. It is the Chevy Aveo. Most of Suzuki cars sold in this country now are GMDAT badged vehicles.
#195 of 1514 Re: from a distance [jnt]
Jan 18, 2007 (10:23 pm)
I actually saw and was not surprised. Kind of Suzuki with Chevrolet badge. But Fords are much nicer.
#196 of 1514 Re: typical cost-cutting [rvoth]
Jan 20, 2007 (6:43 am)
I guess selling 245861 Malibu's in 2005 wouldn't qualify for a successful vehicle. I disagree, it was ninth on the top ten list for most sold vehicles in 2005. Honda sold 369293 Accord's in the same time, is there quailty that much better?
------------------------------------------------------------ Also, remember, that the Accord (and Camry) cover TWO price ranges ($17-23K and 23-30K),whereas the Malibu Max's(no pun) at around $24 and then the Impala takes over. When you look at Chevrolet's sales of both models, they sell far more than Toyota or Honda.
#197 of 1514 Re: typical cost-cutting [cooterbfd]
Jan 20, 2007 (12:35 pm)
Interesting. Must be a mid-west area for sales exclusive. Here on the coast of California, I see few Malibus, unless they are rental cars. Matter of fact, with the New Malibu being such an upgrade to the present, why they are carrying over the name is beyond me. Tell someone you bought a Malibu, and I assume they are thinking you bought a rental or lease return of some sort. The classic 1968 Malibu SS may no longer come to mind. Actually, the New Impala will be one Chevy with the most anticipation. Not to say the FWD Malibu may not prove to be a good car.
As far as comparisons to the Accord -- The old Malibu to Accord no way.
#198 of 1514 Will the 2008 Chevy Malibu
Jan 21, 2007 (7:08 am)
come available with a 5-speed manual transmission? That is the 'Bu for '08 that I would choose. The stick shifts generally cost around $1,000 less than the autmatic transmission model, which is good, but that's not why I would want a stick. Ever since I traded an automatic '97 Ford Escort sedan in on a '99 Kia Sephia with a stick I've enjoyed driving 5-speed sticks much more and would want the same on a 2008 Malibu. Who's gone to the '08 Malibu website already and researched this?
I have several cars on my futures list and two of them are the '08 Malibu(if a manual transmission is offered, if not it's axed from my list)and the 2007 Kia Optima base model like csandste's, except I would go with the stick. I know that with new college grad discounts and loyalty rebates, etc., whatever other discount I could find, including just offering less than sticker, I could pop my fanny into a '07 5-speed Kia Optima base model(BTW, the Optima offers a lot of feature content on it's base model)in Ruby Red shiny paint for around $14,500 to $15,000 plus T&L. For the amount of midsize car I would get that deal is pert-near unbeatable. Oh, the HyunKia Long-Haul Warranty? It works and Kia will stand behind it. Just don't look to burn them, they'll want documentation of maintenance records, etc. I know I'll get a good rig with a Kia. I've bought two new ones in a row and the Optima is getting great marks for safety and quality.
Who of you think that a nearby Chevy dealer would offer an '08 'Bu(if 5-speed manual tranny is built)for anywhere near $14 or $15,000 grand? Tell ya what, this is the first new Chevy I've liked since I've mildly looked at Aveo's. The Malibu I'm considering taking a second look and maybe even taking a fun test drive in one.
I think Chevy's done a great job on the front of the 2008 Malibu and the rear is OK, but not ugly by any means and no deal killer. In fact, it brings up visions of Mitsu Diamante's from the early 2000's from back there. That's not a negatory, really. Just different. Different is not bad, not by any stretch.
I've got two main questions about the '08 'Bu I need answered. How much will the 4 cyl cost and will Chev offer a 5-speed stick shift with it. Some of you's may already know the answer to at least one of these burning questions.
I'm guessing $17,995 for a base model '08 Malibu with automatic transmission. If Chev offered a 5-speed manual transmission base model for $16,999 I'd perk up my ears a tad. This new 'Bu is a looker!
#199 of 1514 Re: Will the 2008 Chevy Malibu [iluvmysephia1]
Jan 21, 2007 (4:57 pm)
#200 of 1514 Indeed...there's no manual transmission
Jan 21, 2007 (6:30 pm)
offered on the 2008 Chevy Malibu at all.
Enjoy your 'Bu's if you get 'em, that eliminates me from the competition.