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Re: wierd noise [m3fan3] by e_net_rider
Oct 31, 2009 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: m3fan3 (Oct 30, 2009 6:28 pm)

Weird could be spooky, but I suspect you should not have a clicking noise. Perhaps if you could describe it a bit more.
If you have that much road noise, you have noisy tires or is it that faint? Try a quieter type of surface.
Immediately check wheel nuts to make sure you don't have a loose wheel!!!!
You might try removing wheel and check area for something that is making intermittant contact. Calipers have been known to make such a sound, especially if the rotor is warped, but then you might also feel that when you brake. With that mileage, you have likely had tires rotated. Have you heeded my advice of getting a torque wrench and check behind the mechanic so that you don't incur such damage? (posted elsewhere as a warning to all)
Also CV joints can make a sound that is somewhat like a clicking if there is a lot of wear. Usually it occurs prematurely if the boot has been punctured and you loose all of the grease. And often the clicking is worse in a slow turn.
Also check to see if something is stuck in the tire that might make such a sound as it comes in contact with the road.
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Service Bulletins by e_net_rider
Nov 03, 2009 (5:41 am)
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I did a search for 09 and this is what I found.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/results.cfm
What really caught my eye was the missing diodes from the fan circuit because they did the same thing on Olds Aurora's. My 96 had the jumper harness added that fixed the problem. Knowing a bit of semiconductor design parameters, voltage spikes beyond design parameters will likely damage them or lead to an immediate death of components. If damaged, it is hard to pinpoint an exact time of death, it could be minutes or even years, but definitely a premature death is extremely likely once the damage has occured.
Reviewing the 17 service bulletins at this link, most of them could be related to this design flaw. BTW, this also effects some Pontiacs, some '08's, and probably some Saturns. There are only three of these bulletins that can be ruled out, with what info is provided, as not being related to possible damage caused by missing diodes. Two are for hybrid models and the third seems to have been tracked to a loose ground wire by the AC compressor.
 
If anyone learns the procedure for determining if the diodes are missing, please post back.
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Hose Replacement by uncledewey1
Nov 03, 2009 (10:49 am)
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I had a disaster with my last car when a radiator hose broke and fried my engine, thus I am now driving 2008 Malibu LTZ 3.6 V-6. In the old days I was under the hood working on spark plugs, points, etc. and would notice when belts and hoses needed replacement. Are the new hoses more durable and how long before one should automatically replace them?
 
Thanks, Uncle Dewey
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Re: Hose Replacement [uncledewey1] by e_net_rider
Nov 04, 2009 (3:28 am)
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Replying to: uncledewey1 (Nov 03, 2009 10:49 am)

My experience only relates to cars that are older. So, I would hope that by now they have worked bugs out of switching to serpentine belts. And that they use quality belts and hoses. I can only hope that they last 10 years, but I won't bet on it. Prior to serpentine, you could get 10 years if it was set up correctly. Often the brackets and parts had a lot of play in the holes and you had to pry the parts into alignment before tightenting. Poor alignment will kill a belt in very short time. And there was the retensioning after break in. I had an 84 Topaz where I replaced the timing, main belt, and idler as ot was approaching 100K. But the alternator belt, because of poor design, was about every 10K. Too much play in alternator pivot point making it very hard to align. Also a very short belt run off PS pump and because the alternator pulley was so small it did not provide enough gripping surface.
I guess it is time to check warranty and see if belts and hoses are covered.
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Re: Hose Replacement [uncledewey1] by pao
Nov 04, 2009 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: uncledewey1 (Nov 03, 2009 10:49 am)

I still have all my original hoses...but have replaced the surpentine belt...(at about 80K), but it exhibited signs of wear as well..cracking, ribbing missing etc.....
at my 100K maintenance I also replaced the plug wires as well.....hoses still are pliable and dont show any signs of cracking....so should still be good....have 155K on my 04 Maxx LT
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Re: wierd noise [e_net_rider] by m3fan3
Nov 12, 2009 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: e_net_rider (Oct 31, 2009 6:41 am)

Hey thanks for replying. Yeah today I found out my driver side headlight is moist inside, and I had the time so I went to the dealer about the light and also mention the noises. and I will be dropping it off officially monday morning since they need a whole day for it. And this is all under warranty. I'll let you know what it is.
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Re: wierd noise [m3fan3] by e_net_rider
Nov 13, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: m3fan3 (Nov 12, 2009 1:57 pm)

Looking forward to your reply.
Mine is at shop as well. They say the check engine was because of a bad gas cap.
I am disappointed to learn that is not a switch at the gas door hooked to the alarm.
Also a foam gasket inside rear window is dislodged. Said they had to replace that whole rear deck panel which seems crazy.
Still on the hunt for why the vehicle feels so loose and seems to have play in steering, electric assist.
They got me loaner from Hertz, a LS. Also has some of the weird feeling but hard to tell what is causing issue when this one had dings in both left side wheels and major differences in tire pressure and tire noise that might be cupping or maybe CV joints. Only had 25K. For drivability, the AT6 with I4 is a must. This loaner is a dog.
 
I will continue to hunt issue related to loose steering and post what I find. I glanced at an LTZ in showroom with V6, 3.6. The EPA shows worse mileage than an Impala a couple of vehicles over with 3.5 V6 and AT4. How can that be?
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Re: Hose Replacement [pao] by e_net_rider
Nov 15, 2009 (1:55 pm)
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Replying to: pao (Nov 04, 2009 6:58 am)

What about plugs? And O2 sensors?
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Re: wierd noise [e_net_rider] by m3fan3
Nov 15, 2009 (10:19 pm)
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Replying to: e_net_rider (Nov 13, 2009 6:27 am)

Interesting. Just curious what is your year and mileage? Hopefully nothing else comes around that needs repairing/replacing even though its all on warranty.
 
I'll let ya know what the deal is about my noises.
 
let me know whats going on about that steering.
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Re: wierd noise [m3fan3] by e_net_rider
Nov 16, 2009 (3:47 am)
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Replying to: m3fan3 (Nov 15, 2009 10:19 pm)

The loaner they got from Hertz, an LS with 25K, had a number of sounds coming from what sounded to be suspension bushings. Definitely not impressive at that mileage. Also I suspect the carpet package that adds a thick one to the trunk is helping keep noise down.
Mine is 09 Malibu LT2 I4 AT6.
I'm still not sure where this steering issue is at. My suspicions are 1) something to do with electric power steering, 2) related to alignment, or 3) the tires.
On the alignment issue, there are two points the way this is aligned compared to what good alignments would be. First, it is stated that for best straight line handling the left side castor should generally be higher than the right side. Mine is the opposite.
Second, I have issue with the spec for left front camber being different than right side. They tell me this is more common with newer vehicles. Most vehicles would only have this if you intend to drive in circles. Another measurement that is relative to camber is the SAI (something like steering arm inclination). You add this to the camber to get the "included angle" and the difference side to side is supposed to be zero. One of the things this effects is the natural returning to center of the steering if you let loose of the steering wheel coming out of a turn. My print out does not give a specified range for SAI, Included Angle, Turning Angle Difference, Cross SAI, Cross Turn Difference, or on the rear, the Cross Camber. They did give the actual readings of most of these. I plan on having another shop look at it.
3) Tires. I am not happy with a couple of characteristics of these FR710s, but can not say they are definitely effecting this loose feeling at center until the other two items are ruled out. Not without investing in a new set of tires on a maybe.

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