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#1 of 10 Rabbit v. Jetta v. Passat by Sylvia STAFF Jul 20, 2006 (7:24 pm)
Rabbit v. Jetta v. Passat
#2 of 10 Just My Experience by gogirlgo Jul 06, 2006 (8:45 am)
My last car was a stick Passat. I got a Rabbit because I need an automatic and it cost a Lot less then a new Passat. The Rabbit has the solid feel of the larger Passat. My daughter had a Civic for a year and just traded it in on an Element as she has 2 kids and needs the extra room. I drove her Civic and I liked it. My point was that, to me, it felt like a tin can compared with the solid feel of the VW. The Civic may be as safe as the Rabbit, but it did not feel safe. The road noise was also annoying. This is more important to me than gas mileage. Actually the Civic is larger and its CW is 2593. The Rabbit CW 2974...both MT. Its what is done with that extra weight that matter to me. I don't think VW is bragging about its gas mileage. Besides MPG is related to other factors like driving style. My Passat got up to 37 miles to the gallon. I will be reporting my real world MPG on the Rabbit and hope other will too. Replies to this message: joedirt (Jul 06, 2006 10:34 am) jeffyscott (Jul 06, 2006 10:55 am) parkerjon (Jul 06, 2006 11:46 am) and 2 more... eldaino (Nov 06, 2006 1:31 pm)
#3 of 10 Re: Just My Experience [gogirlgo] by joedirt Jul 06, 2006 (10:34 am)
Replying to: gogirlgo (Jul 06, 2006 8:45 am) Right. I completely understand the appeal of a solid feeling car, and the sensation of safety that provides.   In fact, that is one of the reasons I actually like the new Rabbit, and at some point, may even consider buying one.   However, I could get that same feel in a Jetta or Passat, at a not much higher price point, and the compromises that VW asks buyers to make when choosing the Rabbit over a competing Civic are somewhat bizarre (gas mileage).   However, if you find that the real world mileage of the Rabbit is notably better than the Jetta or Passat, and even close to that of the Civic, I won't have such confusion anymore.   One other thing: I've been checking prices on the Rabbit, and the automatic versions, which some of us need, all seem to be around $18,000 and up. Replies to this message: jeffyscott (Jul 06, 2006 10:55 am) parkerjon (Jul 06, 2006 11:46 am) jeffyscott (Jul 07, 2006 4:29 am) eldaino (Nov 06, 2006 1:31 pm)
#4 of 10 Rabbit vs. Jetta vs. Passat by jeffyscott Jul 06, 2006 (10:55 am)
Replying to: joedirt (Jul 06, 2006 10:34 am) The 2 door Rabbit starts much cheaper (~$3000) than Value Edition Jetta (I thnk its a "loss leader"). The 4 door rabbit starts only about $1000 less than Jetta.   The Passat starts about $5000 above the Jetta...so not sure where you are getting the idea that you can get a Passat for not much more than a Jetta. Maybe there is a little more mark-up in the Passat, but I think you are looking at at paying least $4000 more for base Passat over base Jetta. Replies to this message: parkerjon (Jul 06, 2006 11:46 am) jeffyscott (Jul 07, 2006 4:29 am)
#5 of 10 Re: Rabbit vs. Jetta vs. Passat [jeffyscott] by parkerjon Jul 06, 2006 (11:46 am)
Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 06, 2006 10:55 am) In some ways you might expect the Rabbit 4 door to be the same or more than the 2.5 Jetta: pretty much the same amount of metal and perhaps more cost related to manufacturing/shipping from Germany.   In Canada there is $9000 CDN ($8000 USD) difference between the base 4 dr Rabbit and the base Passat - add a few features and the gap increases fairly quickly.   How are the residual and lease rates South of the border? Up here in Canada they are currently 55% and 6% respectively. Replies to this message: jeffyscott (Jul 07, 2006 4:29 am)
#7 of 10 Re: Rabbit vs. Jetta vs. Passat [parkerjon] by jeffyscott Jul 07, 2006 (4:29 am)
Replying to: parkerjon (Jul 06, 2006 11:46 am) In some ways you might expect the Rabbit 4 door to be the same or more than the 2.5 Jetta: pretty much the same amount of metal and perhaps more cost related to manufacturing/shipping from Germany.   Yes, I think the Rabbit is costing more to build than the Jetta. But the way markets work is the selling price is based on what people are willing to pay...which is mostly based on what similar cars sell for. If costs are higher than what buyers are willing to pay, VW can either sell the Rabbit at a loss in the US or not sell any here.   The fact that the manaufacturer has high costs does not enable them to sell at a higher price, this is why GM and Ford are losing money in the US. I believe VW has been losing money in the US as well.   The majority of buyers (including myself) are not going to pay more just because a car is assembled in Germany vs. Mexico or Brazil.
#8 of 10 Jetta vs Passat by starbird Jul 25, 2006 (10:06 am)
The Jetta comes with automatic climate controls, power seats etc.. for nearly the same price as a 2.0T passat due to heavy discounting. THe $64,000 is how much do you really need such fancy options.
#9 of 10 2006 Golf(Rabbit) & Jetta are better value than 2006 Passat by kvik Aug 18, 2006 (8:58 am)
Since 2006 Passat is not anymore build on more expensive Audi platform/hardware in Germany like the previous model (2001.5 - 2005), it's not anymore considered as the best value among the VW line of cars. As a matter of fact, the new Jetta and Rabbit (ex-Golf)are all built on the same platform/hardware as Passat with the only substantial difference - the size.   In this regard, other important features like gas mileage and cost of ownership should be considered when choosing 2006 Rabbit vs. 2006 Jetta (both seems a better value overall than Passat right now factoring-in the price).
#10 of 10 Re: Just My Experience [joedirt] by eldaino Nov 06, 2006 (1:31 pm)
Replying to: joedirt (Jul 06, 2006 10:34 am) I don't know how it will compare to the jetta or passat, but being an ex-06 civic owner, the civic was better. My rabbit averages about 26 mixed city and highway, and the civic averaged around anywhere from 29-31 mixed. The downside of the civic were its lack of pep (it was not bad actually, not at all, its just not as good as the rabbit) but good gas mileage, whereas with the rabbit its the other way around. The civc also had a smaller gas tank, and you can pump about 3 or four mor gallons into the rabbit so the actual distance you travel feels the same, just needs a couple more gallons to do so. Not great mileage by far, but considering its an inline FIVE cylnder that is almost double the displacement of the civics 1.8 and it happens to be housed in a car that weighs a bit more, i say thats not to shabby.

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