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Re: Brake Nightmare [paisan]
by tzanghi
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Nov 30, 2007 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Nov 29, 2007 5:17 pm)
Yes, I did wait 5 weeks to get the brakes done but I didn't think it was a must do this second since they said the wear was within normal range. They did not say they were in really poor condition. I didn't get it done because they wanted $1,100 for front brakes. I wanted to see if I could get a second opinion from another dealer. Like I said, although I was 2 weeks past the warranty date, I only had 25K on it. This vehicle is their top-of-the-line product and I paid close to $48,000 for it. I know other vehicle owners with trucks this size, and they have not replaced their brakes this soon. The fact are the facts, the Frontier brakes are not heavy enough for this vehicle. Of course, the brakes wore out prematurely. I certainly knew this was their first of this model when I purchased it, and yes, you are right, you have to expect glitches, but fix them and not at my cost.
Your boat is awesome! I am not showing this picture to my husband. He is dying to get a boat. What year is you Armada? Did you lease or buy?
As far as the caliper leaking, the repair shop that repaired the brakes said the caliper was leaking for a considerable time. I was told by a service specialist that Nissan extended the brakes warranty to 36K miles. found out yesterday that that is not true. Nissan extended the brake warranty to 36 months.
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Continual Break Problem
by shopinful
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Nov 30, 2007 (6:40 pm)
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Make sure you tell your dealer about the constant break problems. Please read past post to address this problem with you dealer. Nissan has honored problems with the brakes by fixing them since it has been a problem from day one. I would not give up but ask for a Nissan Rep. and write Nissan about going to the Lemon Law to relieve your brake problem. That should get their attention!
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Re: Brake Nightmare [tzanghi]
by paisan
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Nov 30, 2007 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: tzanghi (Nov 30, 2007 12:51 pm)
My truck is an '04, I knew about the brake issue before I bought and actually had them write into the contract that I would get the brake upgrade as soon as it was available or the car would be returned. It's an LE and I bought it in spring of '05, although it had been on their lot from Aug of '04, got a great deal payed about $38k with tax and a 100k bumper to bumper warranty.
Thanks for the compliments on the boat! You can see more pics at http://pbase.com/paisan/boat2007 I tagged a log in the Hudson last sept and it looks like my boat will get totalled or close to it. I think I'll be replacing it with a Center Console boat with Twin 250s or 275s.
-mike
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Re: Brake Nightmare [paisan]
by tzanghi
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Dec 01, 2007 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Nov 30, 2007 6:52 pm)
My truck is also an '04 but I bought it in Feb 2004, before these problems were really made public. Of course, I think I am right and I am sure Nissan thinks they are too. We will have to see what happens. Like I said, the brake pad fell off while I was backing out of my driveway with my 2 little sons in the car. It rolled across the street and partially up the neighbor's driveway before coming to a stop in the middle of the street. Was very scary!
With my previous truck, the Pathfinder, I took a 3 year lease and had no problems with it ever. With the Armada, I took a 4 year lease and probably should have extended the warranty. My lease is up on Feb 27th. I don't know if I am going to get another one. I really do love the truck except for the payments..........
The boat would be my husband's dream. He just said last night to my 6 year old, that he wanted to get a boat next summer. He goes to all of the boat shows in Atlantic City, and then comes home and shows me all of the boats and prices. Pretty steep!!!
Thank you and good luck with your new boat. I will let you know when Nissan makes a decision.
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Re: Brake Nightmare [paisan]
by wood3462
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Dec 01, 2007 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Nov 30, 2007 6:52 pm)
There is no reason for that brake pad to fall out. If the vehicle was in for service and the dealer thought the brakes were that bad they would not take that risk and allow you to leave without strongly encouraging you to let them fix it. At best they would have had you sign a waiver to protect them prior to you leaving.
The Armada has had major front brake issues since 2004. If the Nissan rep is not trying to help and you have not caused any damage to the system other than Normal wear? Contact a lemon Law attorney for Breach of Warranty it does not cost you anything for a consultation. If you are found in the right the attorney fees are paid by Nissan.
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Re: Brake Nightmare [tzanghi]
by paisan
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Dec 02, 2007 (5:48 am)
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Replying to: tzanghi (Dec 01, 2007 7:29 am)
The boat would be my husband's dream. He just said last night to my 6 year old, that he wanted to get a boat next summer. He goes to all of the boat shows in Atlantic City, and then comes home and shows me all of the boats and prices. Pretty steep!!!
Thank you and good luck with your new boat. I will let you know when Nissan makes a decision.
Perhaps he'd like to buy my boat? I tagged a log last sept and I may have to sell it since it's got a hole in it Only kidding about him buying it, it'l probably going to be totalled.
I hit up all the boat shows too. I'm going to the NY Boat show in Dec/Jan.
Last year we were supposed to go down and do an overnight to Atlantic City but never made it down. I spend most of my time boating on the Hudson/NY Harbor and Barneget Bay.
If he ever wants a ride next summer, let me know, it sounds like you guys are in NJ which is were I spend most of my time.
-mike
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Re: Brake Nightmare [paisan]
by tzanghi
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Dec 03, 2007 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 02, 2007 5:48 am)
I already filed a complaint and was assigned a specialist who I never heard from for 2 months. I was finally notified that she was gone and that my claim was being denied. I escalated that to a supervisor and they looked at the file with the District Parts Manager. I informed him that I still had the old rotors and he had me thake them to another dealership for an evaluation. They said the rotors were severely warped. I ended up having to re-fax them my receipt for the new brakes and last week he declined a reimbursement based on the fact that I had new brake pads put on with the brake job.
I immediately called the consumer line in Tennessee and was assigned an executive specialist who says they are re-evaluating the file. She was down right nasty. She basically told me that no matter what, my warranty was up if only by 2 weeks. My gripe is the truck has such low mileage they could have given me the brake job.
Yes, we do live in New Jersey. Blackwood to be specific which is about 45 minutes north of AC. My husband loves to gamble so we go down a few time a year.
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Re: Brake Issues [shopinful]
by badinfinity
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Feb 11, 2008 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: shopinful (Nov 07, 2006 8:20 pm)
As a prior owner of Armadas sistership the Infinity QX56 (a piece of crap in Infinity clothing), I HAVE ENDANGERED MY LIFE AND THOSE OF MY FAMILY & PASSENGERS ON NUMEROUS TIMES WHEN THE BRAKES FAILED FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
Reason # 1: The truck is oversized for it's brake rotors & pads. They fail about every 4 or 6000 miles. The rotors must be replaced or "turned". This is something that should naturally occur in about 100,000 miles.
Reason # 2: The ABS system fails without warning.
Reason # 3: The Vehicle Skid Control takes over and starts steering the vehicle by activating the brakes (to steer the car). This can as has caused loss of control on busy streets.
DO NOT BUY THIS VEHICLE, IT IS A LEMON. FAIR WARNING
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Re: Brake Issues [badinfinity]
by wood3462
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Feb 11, 2008 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: badinfinity (Feb 11, 2008 3:24 pm)
I just saw your listing. I feel for you I own a 2005 Armada with the same problems. I wrote letters upon letters, complained about the brakes, the dealer could frankly give a crap about us owners. I finally contacted a lemon law attorney. Well it's been about 6 months and this month Nissan has agreed to buy it back. It's not a bed of roses, I am making out better than trading it in, but I am getting no where near what I should get with all the aggrivation and my time spent. It was either take the offer or go through a long court battle. If enough people file lemon law claims I may someday see some justice. Good luck Don't let people tell you that all manufactures go through this. This Armada / Infinity has had these undersized brakes since 2004. People will say it was traced back to a computer error. We'll thats great if that was the case than why has Nissan put out several tech bulletins (3) about the problem. Oh ya did I mention that for 2008 the made the rotors larger (hu-m) . If I seem bitter I am. I spent alot of money on my Armada that I will never see. I paid for a product I expect it to work safetly and properly. YOUR RIGHT THE ARMADA / INFINITY ARE LEMONS!!
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Re: Brake Issues [wood3462]
by paisan
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Feb 11, 2008 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: wood3462 (Feb 11, 2008 4:34 pm)
And as a counterpoint. I tow a 10,000 lb High Performance Boat with my 04 through the mountains, and after the brakes were upgraded at 2k miles I've had 48k miles w/o issue. I've replaced the pads 1x at about 25k and will probably replace the pads again around 60k miles. Rotors generally last about 80k and usually get turned at about 60k miles.
-mike
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